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Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« on: Saturday 30 April 05 02:00 BST (UK) »

My ancestor Ann WATSON lost her husband in a pit explosion in 1834 in Heaton pit, NBL.

in 1841 she was at Croft Street, Newcastle with 3 children.

In 1851 the 3 children were at Russell Street nearby with their aunt Elizabeth RIPPON.

Have no idea what happened to the childrens mother! She had NOT been born in NBL and her sister had been born in sunderland, DUR in 1801.

A lot of Ann WATSON's died between 1841 - 1851 in Newcastle, never mind anywhere else. I've almost eliminated those in Newcastle but I cannot buy all the death certificates for all the Ann WATSON's in England.

What else to do? This is one of my long standing brick walls.
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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 April 05 22:36 BST (UK) »

Gen Listlass,

What was Ann's husband's first name ?

Was Auntie Elizabeth married or single ?

Where and when were the three children born ?

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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 May 05 01:54 BST (UK) »

Gen Listlass,

Hi Nosey Michael:-)

What was Ann's husband's first name ?

[/b]Robert WATSON b. 1801 Longbenton NBL

Was Auntie Elizabeth married or single ?

[b]
Single

Where and when were the three children born ?

(These bolds dont seem to be working so I'll give up on them!)

Elizabeth 1829
John 1831
Ann 1833

All born around Bigges Main pit, Heaton area NBL

At the inquest his "cousin" Thomas HEDLEY was reported killed in the same explosion. Could never find a connection between them so maybe a cousin or something similar to his wife?Huh

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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 May 05 13:04 BST (UK) »

Gennie,

On to a geographic and administrative angle.....

I notice that the underground expolsion that killed 3 miners
( although "your" two were masons ) was at St Lawrence Pit.

Maybe this was just another name for Heaton Colliery.

Anyway if at Heaton, then as Heaton was one of the  "townships"* of the Parish of All Saints, which was part of the City of Newcastle, then it can be regarded as "Newcastle"

The area of Bigges Main, where there was also a pit, was west of the border of All Saints territory, and can therefore not be regarded as " Newcastle".

Bigges Main lay close the the border of the Parish of Longbenton and the Parish of Wallsend. ( Not sure at the moment,  of where exactly that border lay)

But anyway both Longbenton and Wallsend Parishes were "outside" Newcastle, and so for purposes of registration of Births, Marriages and Deaths, lay within the Registration District of Newcastle.

So this is just a longwinded way of suggesting if you are looking for registration of a death, do not overlook Tynemouth records.

*" Township" here means just a sub-division of a Parish, nothing to do with towns.

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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 May 05 18:56 BST (UK) »

Hi,

What makes you think she died?  She may have re-married.  My Great Grandma did.  She re-married declaring herself a 'widow' on her new marriage certificate, even though her 1st hubby was alive and kicking and actually remarried a few years later.  She even 'remarried' in a very local church!  However, her children were in the workhouse.  Perhaps the new husband didn't want them. I don't know. 

Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a re-marriage.

Trini.
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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 May 05 01:27 BST (UK) »

Hi Trini

You are right, I've been thinking in the same groove for ages. Also for remarriages, I think I formerly looked it up under the surname of her first husband!  Daaargh!

I've just looked at the Newcastle marriages on-line and have found an Ann RIPPON marrying at St Johns Newcastle in 1844.
This would fit  for her being with the children in 1841 and not in 1851..............

This COULD be her. RIPPON isn't as common a name as WATSON in Newcastle.

Will get it checked out ASAP in the marriage registers.

Will keep you posted as to outcome, after so long I mustn't get excited:-)
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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 May 05 01:59 BST (UK) »

GenListLass,

In 1844 a Ann Rippon married John S Bailey @ St John's.

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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 May 05 02:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Dixymick

This is the marriage i thought it MIGHT be. Will get it checked out.

Thanks
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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 May 05 08:04 BST (UK) »

GenLL,

Just a wee hint.... if you traced her marriage on the Newcastle Register Office web site.... clicking on the link to the right of name.. I think it says something like "Show Spouse",.............. will reveal the other spouse.

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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #9 on: Monday 02 May 05 12:27 BST (UK) »

Thanks dixymick

Got him, Mr Bailey.
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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 17:42 BST (UK) »

From Index of "Northumberland Marriages 1813-1837"

Elizabeth Rippon >< John Watson 11 Jul 1819 N/c All Saints

Ann Rippon >< Robert Watson 20 Nov 1827 N/C St John's.

Ann Watson >< Thomas Watson 26 Jun 1831 N/C St John's.



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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 17:44 BST (UK) »

From Index of "Northumberland Marriages 1813-1837"

Elizabeth Rippon >< John Watson 11 Jul 1819 N/c All Saints

Ann Rippon >< Robert Watson 20 Nov 1827 N/C St John's.

Ann Watson >< Thomas Watson 26 Jun 1831 N/C St John's.



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Re: Lost ancestor Ann WATSON nee Rippon
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 01:28 BST (UK) »

Thanks Michael for 3 RIPPON marriages. Will get someone to check them out for me, I'm a bit far away at the mo.
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