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Topic: 1841 /1851 census lookup please. Crossgate Cupar Fife (Read 850 times)
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pamissearching!!!
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Would anyone be able to lookup a family of Robertsons in Crossgate? Robert Robertson was a jeweller /watchmaker. His wife was Isabella [Jessie]
Children were Robert, John Alexander, John, Stewart Alexander, Elizabeth, William, and George brunston. I would be very grateful. Cheers Pam 
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ian55
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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The 1841 Census for Cupar and some other parishes was apparantly lost at sea.
I found the following on Ancestry for the 1851 Census:-
Head Robert Robertson
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Jesse J
Gender: Male
Where born: Cupar, Fife
Parish Number: 420
Civil Parish: Cupar
County: Fife
Address: 29 Lebanon
Occupation: Goldsmith 2 Inspeet Of Weeglet Acres Meaunt Wife
Wife Jesse J Robertson 55 born Dunkeld
Son William Robertson 20 Engineer born Cuar
Son George Robertson 14 Galannith Ap born Cupar
Daughter Elizabeth Robertson 23 born Cupar
As usual the transcription on Ancestry leaves a lot to be desired. I do not know what else Robert may have done apart from Goldsmith. I presume son George was a Goldsmith Apprentice.
According to googlemaps Front Lebanon and Back Lebanon are streets north of Bonnygate Cupar.
Hope this helps.
Ian55
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pamissearching!!!
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Hi Ian. THank you for that census. Yes Georeg was a jeweller as well. I think the occupation should say Inspector of Weights and measures. I can now see that William was an engineer. Elizabeth also ended up as a jeweller.
Cheers 
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ian55
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I have a family of Jewellers/Watchmakers in my family tree. The business was in Kirkcaldy but started by a man from Cupar. I found details of the history of the business in a book entitled "Fife Shopkeepers and Traders 1820-1870".
On a trip to Fife last year I saw the book at Cupar Library and I think they have it at Kirkcaldy Library as well. If you have not already done so it might be worth a look for the Robertsons.
Ian55
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pamissearching!!!
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Hi Ian. Yes, I have the entry for the Robertsons.
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Piglet01
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Hello
Is this your Robert? Will available for download on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
= £5.00 Didn't look for anything further.
Regards, Steve :O)
Robertson Robert 25/07/1877 Jeweller, Cupar, d. 14/05/1877 at Cupar, testate Cupar Sheriff Court SC20/50
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Borders: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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pamissearching!!!
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Hi Steve. Thank you. I have his will now. Cheers
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Margow
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You may be interested to know that Fife Council Museums Service has six silver spoons made by Robert Robertson (b. 1793)
Margow
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pamissearching!!!
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Hi Margow. Thank you. I am surprised there is some stuff still around. Robert Robertson was also apparently involed in something called nobby`s law. I have found this on the internet when googling robert robertson.
I think he was known about the place back then
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Margow
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I've not heard of nobby's law - do you perhaps mean Norrie's Law ? This is a hill near Largo in Fife, where a hoard of Pictish and Roman silver was discovered about 1815-1820. Some of the silver pieces from the hoard were acquired by a pedlar, who sold them as scrap to Robert Robertson, who is reputed to have melted them down for his own use.
Robertson silver is highly regarded by museums and private collectors. Some pieces came up at an auction of Scottish Provincial Silver last month (Woolley & Wallis, Salisbury, 27/01/09) - a teaspoon sold for £400 and a toddy ladle for £950.
Margow
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pamissearching!!!
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Hi Margow, Yes I did mean Norries law. I dont know where I got Nobbys from . I found that article while I was surfing and it was mentioned on Time Team when they weredigging around up there Cheers
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Chiad Fhear
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Hi everyone ... I think you may have LARGO LAW and NORMAN'S LAW mixed up. As the crow flies they're over 20 miles apart. Given you're 'talking' Cupar, I'd say it's Norman's Law out on the north side of the County near Newburgh.
http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=342500&y=705500&z=120&sv=Largo+Law&st=3&tl=Map+of+Largo+Law,+Fife+[Hill/Mountain]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf
http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=330500&y=720500&z=120&sv=Norman's+Law&st=3&tl=Map+of+Norman's+Law,+Fife+[Hill/Mountain]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf
Use the Zoom Control to the right of the map to get their relationship
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited! Family surnames being researched ... Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more! Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Margow
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Too many Laws, I'm afraid - that's the trouble with Fife !
You are quite right - NORMAN'S LAW is near Newburgh (OS map ref NO. 305201). I've been there - right to the top and a fantastic view you get too - I can recommend it. However, NORRIE'S LAW is another geographical feature altogether (more of a ridge really) and can be accessed from the road between Ceres and Balcormo (OS map ref NO 410075). Largo Law is a little further south and just to the north of Upper Largo (OS map ref NO 425050).
Hope that clears up the confusion.
Margow
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