snowwhite77
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I am hoping to get to the Library this week where they have death records fro Clackmannan only pre 1852. If anyone wants me to check someone for them let me know!
Remember only pre 1852. Try to tell me as much as possible, not sure how much time i wil have so will do my best!
Amanda
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PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown
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hillwalker
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If you go again, I'd be very grateful for any information on Andrew Cairns-I would imagine he was born about 1750. He married Betty Maxwell in 1776 in Tillicoultry and all their children were born in Tillicoultry. Their last child was born in 1794 and he was dead before 1855 when his son John died. I am at the brick wall stage trying to find out his date of birth and parents' names. Perhaps Betty Cairns's death record might be there as well. Thanks.
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hillwalker
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Thanks. 
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SpanSoft
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Hi Hillwalker.
I'm also researching Andrew Cairns = Elizabeth Maxwell.
I'm afraid that I have also come up against a brick wall. However, I have a copy of the OPR entry for their marriage and it seems to suggest that Betty was from Stirling.
We have not been able to find any death record for either of them.
Are you related to them? If so through which of their children?
I am Williamina Eugenia's great4grandson.
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hillwalker
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I'm a descendant of Williamina Eugenia's brother John who married Mary Ann Drummond, William Drummond's sister. The only possibility for Betty Maxwell in Stirling that I have found so far is Bethia Maxwell, born 1753 to John Maxwell and Mary Finlayson. Andrew Cairns is a puzzle - I would have expected his father to be called John, in accordance with the Scottish tradition of naming the first son after the father's father but there's no trace of him. As I'm sure you've discovered, there are only about 3 Andrews recorded as being born between c.1740 and 1755, but there's another Andrew marrying in Tillicoultry in the 1760s and one marrying in Alva in 1775. It looks like the records just don't exist and Andrew's parents will remain a mystery.  I hope your investigations into the other branches of your family were successful.
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summerton
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Hello Hillwalker
I am a descendant of John Cairns and Mary Ann Drummond.
They were my gggg grandparents.
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summerton
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Hi Hillwalker
Which branch of John Cairns and Mary Drummond are you from?
I am from their son Andrew who married Jane Greig
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hillwalker
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I'm from Thomas Drysdale Cairns who married Mary Young. Their daughter Mary married Richard Thomson and I'm descended from them. Our branch of the family lives in Inverness now. This is great- suddenly a little gathering of Cairns!
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summerton
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Do you know from whom the name Drysdale came and why Thomas and Mary called their daughter Helen Whyte
I think it's great also suddenly all these Cairns coming together
I am stuck with Andrew and Elizabeth Maxwell as well.
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hillwalker
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I think the Drysdale is just from an important family in Alva.They were land-owners and manufacturers. This ties in with John and Mary naming their next son James Raymond Johnstone Cairns after the son of Sir John Johnstone of Alva. In spite of hours of hunting, I can find no reason for Helen having the middle name Whyte. I'm also in the dark about James Raymond Johnstone Cairns's daughter Grace-where did the Alexander come from? and why did he call his first son Peter? I see your Andrew and Jane gave two of their children the middle names Morton and Anderson - any idea about these?
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summerton
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Hi Hillwalker
Grace Alexander was Christina's mother's maiden name and Peter Mcculloch was her father.
I don't know where the names Morton and Anderson came from though.
That's interesting about James Raymond Johnstone I wondered why they named him Raymond Johnstone.
Looking on the IGI I found a John Cairns married a Mary Whyte at Blackford Perth in 1750. so was hoping that I had found Andrew Cairns parents
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hillwalker
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Hello Summerton
Thanks for the information re Christina MCulloch. I last searched for her parents quite a while ago, before I had read enough genealogy books to realise that Christina and Christian were forms of the same name and likewise with Grace and Grizel/Grisel/Grizal.
Scansoft -
How far back have you got with William Drummond's family?. I haven't got anything on the Drummond side before his father William's marriage to Margaret Donaldson and only Margaret Donaldson's parents and her sisters.
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SpanSoft
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Hi Hillwalker,
I see that "Summerton" has joined the chat - we have a history of exchanging family tree info
I do know William Drummond's parents, William Drummond and Margaret Donaldson m. 19 Jul 1772 at Muthill but that's as far as I have got. Margaret Donaldson's parents appear to be William Donaldson and Grizal Chambers (or Chalmers) m. 6 Jan 1740 at Dunning. Muthill is exciting since it is the parish containing Drummond Castle; my grandmother always claimed that there was some funny goings-on on the Drummond side (I think she hoped we were related to the nobility) but that has yet to be proved.
Are you interested in the downward tree from Williamina Eugenia? If so contact me at Nick@spansoft.org and I can email the GEDCOM to you.
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