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Topic: 1861 census look up musselburgh (Read 934 times)
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Elaine48
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1851 Inveresk:
Moffat, Mary f, WI, M, 47 Birthplace: Inveresk
Address: Eskside
Moffat, Thomas, m. HD,M, 43, Tanner & Currier, Master, employing 8 (Birthplace: Inveresk) Address:Eskside
Moffat, John, m, SO, U, 21, Currier journeyman
Birthplace: Inveresk Address: Eskside
Moffat, Alison, f, DA, U, 19 (Born Inveresk)
Moffat, James, m, SO, U, 17 Currier journeyman,
(Born Inveresk)
Moffat, Mary f, DA, U, 15 (born Inveresk)
Moffat, William W, m SO U 11, Scholar, (born Inveresk)
Hope this helps......Elaine
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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tblondemorgan
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the james moffat in that family is my great great grandad
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Hi adief,
I have an extracted record on IGI of Thomas Moffat marrying Mary Dawson 29 Mar 1823 Inveresk with Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
On the 1841 census at Eskside, Musselburgh
Thomas Moffat b 30 abt 1811  Midlothian Occ Merchant La?? (could be 30 - 34)
Mary Moffat 35 b 1806 Midlothian (could be 35 -39)
Thomas Moffat 16 b 1825 Midlothian
David Moffat 12 b 1829 Midlothian
John Moffat 11 b 1830 Midlothian
Alison Moffat 10 b 1831 Midlothian
James Moffat 7 b 1834 Midlothian
Mary Moffat 6 b 1835 Midlothian
Plus 2 servants.
Still have problems with Thomas's age, are you sure you got correct death certificate? The ages and names in 1841 and 1851 tie in very nicely.
Tom
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Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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Elaine48
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Just re-looked at the 1841 census and I see the confusion:
Parish of Inveresk, Eskside:
Moffat, Thomas, m, 50, tannery merchant, b. Midlothian
Moffat, Mary, f, 35, b.Mid
Moffat, Thomas, m, 16, b. Mid
Moffat, David, m, 12, b. Mid
Moffat, John, m, 11, b. Mid
Moffat, Alison, f, 10, b. Mid
Moffat, Mary, f, 6, b. Mid
Moffat, James, m, 7, b. Mid
Moffat, William, m, 1, b. Mid
Williams, Elizabeth, f, 20, servant, b. Mid
Mitchell, Mary, f, 18, servant. b. Mid
Then the 1851:
Parish of Inveresk, Eskside:
Moffat, Thomas, m, HD, 43, Tanner & Currier, Master, b. Inveresk
Moffat, Mary, f, WI, 47, b. Inveresk
Moffat, John, m, So, 21, Currier j'nyman, b. Inveresk
Moffat, Alison, f, DA, 19, b. Inveresk
Moffat, James, m, SO, 17, Currier j'nyman. b. Inveresk
Moffat, Mary, f, DA, 15, b. Inveresk
Moffat, William W. m, SO, 11, scholar, b. Inveresk
Campbell, Jane, f, SV, U, 23, servant, b. PER, Logierait
1861: Parish of Inveresk, High St. Musselburgh:
Moffat, Mary, f, HD, W, 56, Landed propr'x. b. STI. Larbert
Moffat, Alice, f, DA, U, 28, b. Musselburgh
Moffat, Mary, f, DA, U, 25, b. Musselburgh
Moffat, William, m, SO, U, 21, Tanner, b. Musselburgh
Fairburn, Agnes, f, SV, U, 20, servant, b. FIF, Pitenweem
So there must have been a mistake somewhere as to Thomas's real birth date,
if he was 50 in 1841 he should have been 60 in 1851 and
and also Mary wasn't born in Inveresk but in Stirling.
Elaine
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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Elaine48
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Sorry to confuse you, but I got my 1851 census info from the LFHS CD.
Looking at the same family on Freecen for 1851 I see Thomas is aged 63 yrs.
Therefore the mistake seems to be with the CD transcription.
MOFFAT Thomas Head M M 63 Tanner & Currier Master Midlothian - Inveresk
MOFFAT Mary Wife M F 47 Midlothian - Inveresk
MOFFAT John Son U M 21 Currier Journeyman Midlothian - Inveresk
MOFFAT Alison Dau U F 18 Midlothian - Inveresk
MOFFAT James Son U M 17 Currier Journeyman Midlothian - Inveresk
MOFFAT Mary Dau U F 15 Midlothian - Inveresk
MOFFAT William Son - M 11 Scholar Midlothian - Inveresk
CAMPBELL Jane Servnt U F 23 General Servant Perth - Logierait
Elaine
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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Hi Elaine,
Yes, that looks likely, that he should have been 53 in 1841, 63 in 1851 and 73 in 1861. Do you think that Thomas may have been married before to a Mary from Stirling, age difference of 16 years between him and Inversk Mary?
Sorry to confuse things again
Tom
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Elaine48
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Hi Tom,
I did think about that as the age difference was so much, but the kids are in the right age group for Mary to be their mother. I spent a couple of hours last night looking around to see what I could find which wasn't much but I did find a David Moffat also a currier who may have been Thomas's father or brother. Would you like the info?
Elaine
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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Hi Elaine,
Done some searching on IGI, but could not turn up another marriage or family around then, here is what I have found,
David Moffat m Margaret Mill 11 Nov 1776 Inveresk - Submitted record IGI
David c 10 Dec 1777 All b & c at Inveresk
James b 04 Apr 1779 c 17 Apr 1779
Isabel c 05 Feb 1781
John c 30 Nov 1783
Margaret b 12 Nov 1785 c 15 Dec 1785
Thomas b 17 May 1787 Inveresk
Thomas Moffat m Mary Dawson 29 Mar 1823 Inveresk
Thomas b 28 Aug 1825 all born Inveresk
David b 27 Jan 1829
John c 28 Mar 1830
Alison c 09 Oct 1831
James William c 10 Nov 1833
Mary c 28 May 1835
William Woodburn b 25 Feb 1840
Thomas Moffat m Helen Garvie 26 Jun 1842 Inveresk
Family
David c 28 May 1843 Inveresk
Elizabeth Margaret c 19 Apr 1850 North Leith
Thomas Moffat c 02 Dec 1852 North Leith
James Garvie b 28 Jul 1855 Leith Full birth certificate.
William Moffat b 08 Nov 1857 Leith
Tom
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Elaine48
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Then this is probably Thomas's brother David (b.1777 below)
High St. West, Front Row, North Side, Inveresk:
Moffat, David, m, 63 Tanner J'ynman, b, Mid
Moffat, Ann, f, 60, b. Mid
Moffat, David, m, 30, b. Mid
Moffat, James, m, 28, b. Mid
Moffat, Thomas, m, 22, b. Mid
Moffat, Alexander, m, 15, b. Mid
Moffat, Ann, f, 25, b. Mid
Elaine
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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