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Missing Backgound!!!
« on: Saturday 30 April 05 01:50 BST (UK) »

Help,

I have just started uploading my html files to my webspace. My problem is that the background for each page (a .gif file) doesn't show up.

I have been using Netscape Composer to generate the pages and then to publish (upload).  All the images associated with each file are transferred with that file except the background. I have also tried sending the background .gif file using the Microsoft ftp command (which worked), but the background still does not appear.

All suggestions welcome,

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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 April 05 21:43 BST (UK) »

Peter,

What may be worth checking is the name of the .gif file that doesn't appear on the pages as expected.

Generally, it's best to have all file names in lower case - Picture.gif, PICTURE.gif picTURE.gif and picture.gif are all unique and different file names.

Another thing to check is for spaces and non-alphanumeric characters in the file name like  "my picture.gif" and "my_picture.gif" (for example).

Not sure if this is of any help to you, but let us know how you get on!

Trystan  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 April 05 21:47 BST (UK) »

Peter,

I've just had a look at your site. (Looking good already!)

The image that is supposed to be the background in "parch.gif" (presumably it will look like parchment paper) - but there is no "parch.gif" been uploaded to your webspace.

Hopefully when you upload it then all will be well.  Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 May 05 03:04 BST (UK) »

Hi,
You may have noticed that I said that I had uploaded parch.gif using my ftp utility. It still did not work. Ths morning (Oz time) I cleared out my site and sent a test index page which contained a few small images and a background.
I first sent the index and image files with my FTP utility (and checked that they were there), I then sent the page again with the Publish command in Netscape Composer. All the files except the background file were uploaded and presumably overwrote the ftp'd files just sent.

I now have two problems
1. The background does not appear at all when viewed with Netscape.
2. The background appears as a series of stripes when viewed with Windows IE.

Have now resent my original index.html file using Composer. Results as above 1 and 2.

Any ideas welcome,

peterb desperate
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 May 05 06:35 BST (UK) »

Have given up. Have removed background image and opted for a nice pale blue page colour which seems to work with different browsers. Will now go and sulk for a while. I can then look forward to repeating procedure on 400 other files with same problem!

Cheers,

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 May 05 10:26 BST (UK) »

Atleast you have tried a few things (is there an option to "overwrite all" or something in Netscape composer which you can switch off?)

On your web page http://berry-family.rootschat.net/ I see that you now do have parch.gif uploaded to your site now.  Grin



and have this in your <body> tag and <div> tag:
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<body
 style="background-image: url(parch.gif); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 255, 255);"
 alink="#000099" link="#000099" vlink="#990099">
<div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 102, 0);">

Just to test, you may like to use:

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<body background="parch.gif"
 style="background-image: url(parch.gif); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 255, 255);"
 alink="#000099" link="#000099" vlink="#990099">

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 May 05 11:21 BST (UK) »

Hmm... http://berry-family.rootschat.net/parch.gif doesn't show up.  Huh

On my Firefox browser it shows up a blank box - and has the warning:

The image "http://berry-family.rootschat.net/parch.gif" cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 May 05 11:40 BST (UK) »

I've uploaded another parchment image to your webspace for you, and it appears fine (it's called parch.gif - I've renamed the 'broken' image to parch2.gif incase you want to do something with it).

All the best,
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 May 05 05:53 BST (UK) »

Thanks Trystan,

I think you have gone above and beyond here. I will have a play ad see how I go.
I had tried a different image myself, to no avail.  The new image would not upload either using Composer. I had to dos ftp it. I have even sent an email to the folks at Netscape. No reply yet. Will keep you posted.
It's quite odd about the image file being corrupt. It's one I used several years ago when I was doing a Webpage Development unit as part of my IT course. It was OK at that time.

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« Reply #9 on: Monday 02 May 05 10:26 BST (UK) »

Peter,

Smiley

It's quite possible then that the file is getting corrupted when it is being transferred by Netscape Composer then (perhaps it's trying to transfer it as 'ascii' rather than 'binary').

What are the settings available to you in Composer for transferring (uploading) your website?

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 05:11 BST (UK) »

Trystan,

One of my problems was that Composer was not transferring the file. I had to ftp it.
I have had a look through the preferences menu and nothing leaps out at me.
I'll wait for a response from Netscape.

Thanks again,

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 07:26 BST (UK) »

Trystan,

I decided to add a rootschat counter to my index file. It works fine. BUT the background image file has disappeared  from all my pages again in Netscape. Has it been corrupted? It is there ( only just) in IE. Composer seems to be doing something to the .gif file.
No response from Netscape yet.

Thanks,

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 11:51 BST (UK) »

It looks like your old 'corrupted' parchment image has been uploaded again and overwritten the other one. If you look in the directory (on your desktop computer) where your webpages are stored, you should see your parch.gif file - if so try deleting it from there (or better, keep it elsewhere) for now, and try uploading that image manualy.

It's strange becasue all the other images (including lines, arrows, bullet points, email icon etc) on your website are coming through fine. It's quite a puzzler!

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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 May 05 02:57 BST (UK) »

Trystan,
I have got it fixed!!!!
Yesterday, when I uploaded all my files, I used dos ftp to do it. Lo and behold, the image files did not work. So I used Composer to publish a single file containing those images files to see if that would work. And it did. Those .gif files started working.
So my strategy was to create a page with the .gif file which I want as a background, but embed it as an image instead.
It worked.
Composer must be changing the .gif file as it uploads. For some reason it can't see the background file and doesn't upload it.

Still no reply from Netscape

Thanks for all your help.

Over and out (I hope)

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 May 05 23:29 BST (UK) »

Peter,

Well that's good news anyway! Thanks for letting us all know.

Trystan

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