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Re: Daniel MORAN b. 1864 in Route to US?? HELP!
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 22:23 BST (UK) »
don't sweat it or redo.......it's not worth it -----  just give me the jist of what you found and I'll go look for it.......it's no problem!
I have the same access you do so save your energy to help someone more inept than I!   

Don't want to be your other Marr.........

But have that cuppa anyway
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Re: Daniel MORAN b. 1864 in Route to US?? HELP!
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 22:40 BST (UK) »
This is what I started with - and just went from there....

Name:       Patrick FANNING
Age:       29
birth year:    1851
Birthplace:       IRE
Occupation:       Laborer
Relationship        Son
in 1880:       Auburn, Cayuga, New York
Race:       White
Gender:       Male
Father's name:       Mathew FANNING
Father's birthplace:       IRE
Mother's birthplace:       IRE
Year: 1880; Census Place: Auburn, Cayuga, New York;

and that's about it!!

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« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 23:12 BST (UK) »
 Cheesy Hey Girls,
             Sorry to butt in here, any chance my Norris's came over on the same boat.
        Only they lived in Steeple Claydon as well.

                           Lesanne.   Grin
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Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
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« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 23:54 BST (UK) »
Hi lesanne,  In 1863, 31 Norris' travelled  --  11 were English, rest were US, Bulgarian, Irish, Scotish....at lest in the data base.

None were on "Australia"

Names with Origins in England for 1863 were:

Amelia
Charlotte
Ellen
H.  (Male)
J.B. (male
Jos (male)
M. (female)
Magt. (female)
Mary
Mary
Norwood

Any of the above fit and need further research??

If you want a differene year checked and specific names/ages, let me know.... I will do it!

Kathy
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« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 08:36 BST (UK) »
 Cheesy Hi Kathy,
                Thanks for your offer.
    Annie has helped tremendously with my search for
                              Andrew Albert Norris, b 1852 Islip, Oxon.

            His parents were Andrew and Mary Norris ( nee Wall).
        In 1861 Andrew was the Railway Policeman at Steeple Clayton Station.

           Andrew Albert was 8 years old here and that was the last proper account of him.

          I believe it is his uncle William (Andrews Brother) married Sarah (Rendell)in 1846
          and went to New Lenox, Illinois. Their first son Albert is 4 years old in 1850 census.

          Their is only one Andrew Albert Norris to marry in England, that is in Totnes,
           March 1881, but there is no  Bride on that reference.

                     Lesanne.   Cheesy   Fanx.
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 14:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Lesanne!  Think "my people" probably knew "your people" in in Steeple Claydon  --  my King family were long time residents there from about 1830's on......

Don't know what I have found that you and Annie have not already covered....nothing "jumps" as far as Andrew Albert in US in Illinois or elsewhere  --  but found some tidbits which may provide some clues.....hopefully they are NEW tidbits that will help you progress:

Death Record for Andrew Albert Norris d. @ 47 <18544> Mar Qtr 1901 Reading Berkshire

Albert A. Norris 34 <1854> aboard "Britannic" Liverpool to NYC Arr Jun 1, 1888   Not sure if he is Eng or US origin   No other "Norris" on board that sailing


Found parents Andrew & Mary in 1881 @ 36 East Str.             St. George Martyr, London with other children but no Andrew

Found Father's Brother William and wife Sarah, dau Elizabeth (no other children at home at this time) in 1880 Marion, Illinois.  William is a miner.

1881 Thomas J.T. Norris b. Islip, Oxford with wife Elizabeth and sons Arthur T and James A at 45 Elgin Terrace,  Paddington, London    Related to Andrew the Father??

1870 US Census  Albert Norris 20 b. in England living in Westminster, Worcester, Mass.  with Calvin Norris b. in Vermont about 70 years old.  No explanation on the relationship.

I checked under "Albert" b. 1852-54  as well as "Andrew"  thinking Andrew might his middle name since his father was Andrew too. 

Let me know if anything of interest to your inquiry.

Regards,
Kathy
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« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 15:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Kathy,
        You picked up Andrew Albert's death 1901 mar. Pre census, I reckon he must of left a widow to the 1901 census..... Huh

        There is a marriage.. in Totnes 1881 but no bride .... Huh ... have checked out the other couple.....  Sad

        Andrew Albert born Islip Oxon 1852.
He could be my great great grandaddy or his son ..... Huh

William is Andrew's ( b 1822) brother.... Andrew Albert's uncle.  Roll Eyes

                        Lesanne   Grin     Fanx.

                   
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« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 15:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Kathy,
        You picked up Andrew Albert's death 1901 mar. Pre census, I reckon he must of left a widow to the 1901 census..... Huh

        There is a marriage.. in Totnes 1881 but no bride .... Huh ... have checked out the other couple.....  Sad

        Andrew Albert born Islip Oxon 1852.
He could be my great great grandaddy or his son ..... Huh

William is Andrew's ( b 1822) brother.... Andrew Albert's uncle.  Roll Eyes

                        Lesanne   Grin     Fanx.

                   
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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 15:19 BST (UK) »
 What is happening to this postbox  Huh L.
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Re: Daniel MORAN b. 1864 in Route to US?? HELP!
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 18:10 BST (UK) »
Heres a Martin J.....................!!!! ( I was just trying it out!!)
by the way JNO is John....


ID Number     315086
Grooms First Name     Martin Jeffrey (33)
Grooms Last Name     MORAN
Grooms Residence     Mercur
Brides First Name     Elizabeth Ellen (27)
Brides Last Name     O'DONNELL
Brides Residence     Salt Lake City
County of Record     Salt Lake Co., Utah
Place of Marriage     Salt Lake City
Date of Marriage     12 May 1898
Volume     H
Page     413
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« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 18:24 BST (UK) »
Haven't found anything that would lead me to Utah for either Martin  --  but you never know.....  and this marriage is 2 years after 2 children born.....so hope not


I thought JNO maybe was John but couldn't figure out why anyone would abbreviate a four letter name to 3??
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« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 18:28 BST (UK) »


I'm laughing - because I said I was only trying out our new resource - but you never know... could be a cousin or somesuch - you know those Irish Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue
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"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 18:39 BST (UK) »
this Martin in Salt Lake found by Carole??  or what new resource?
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« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 18:48 BST (UK) »


No - I tried her Western Marriage Registry..... I was trying it out -  I looked for Morans and Fannings -  and that was the only one with a name I recognised !
Martin J
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"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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« Reply #59 on: Thursday 19 May 05 20:11 BST (UK) »
http://stlgs.org/natsearch.aspx

Daniel Moran Ireland 1884
Martin Moran Ireland 1896 Witness Spaulding
Martin Moran England 1898
Lawrence Fanning Ireland 1858
Patrick Fanning Ireland 1860
James J Spaulding Ireland 1876 Witness Lambert
theres 12 Patrick Morans
8 James Morans

Naturalisation index in St Louis MO

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"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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