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Old photo stuck on glass
« on: Wednesday 11 May 05 19:37 BST (UK) »

What can I do to get an old photograph out of a frame when the front of it is stuck on the glass?  It has been hanging in a very humid place for the past 40 or so years.  I hope someone can help!
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Re: Old photo stuck on glass
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 19:59 BST (UK) »

Soak the photo and glass together in clean water with a few dops of dishwashing detergent. It is more likely to be stuck by capillary attraction [some damp, 2 smooth surfaces] than by any adhesive action. The dishwasher will lower the surface tension and hopefully they will separate. Then lay the photo face up on newspaper and put some clean paper towelling on top.
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Re: Old photo stuck on glass
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 23:14 BST (UK) »

Do you think it will work on a photo printed as a postcard?
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Re: Old photo stuck on glass
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 23:26 BST (UK) »

Hi Flyn,
   This very topic has been discussed at RetouchPRO http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1664

The general opinion is to scan the photo through the glass first, just in case something goes wrong in the removal process.
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Re: Old photo stuck on glass
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 23:34 BST (UK) »

I agree with Deadants!

As long as you allow the photograph to soak overnight, it should come off very easily - just resist tempation to rush it.

When drying it, you will need to make sure it doesn't curl - and any cloths that you use need to be lint free. To stop it form curling you can place a few little things on the edge of the photograph. Allow it to dry out for a goof few hours before handling it - incase you scratch the emulsion.

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Re: Old photo stuck on glass
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 23:41 BST (UK) »

Thank you so very much for your link, deadants. I will be trying the soaking suggestions soon. One question has come to mind after reading some of the information, though... how do I know whether my photo is suffering from mold?
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Re: Old photo stuck on glass
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 23:44 BST (UK) »

Never, never, dry a wetted print with any form of dryer. Oddly, and I handle many hundreds of cleaned prints and maps that have been wetted, they dry flatter by simply hanging up with a plastic peg. But you must first blot off surplus water. as I indicated.
I have found this method better than using a photographic drum dryer - in fact I scarpped mine a couple of years back.
Paper is a lot tougher than you may think and high quality papers do not disintegrate if wetted.
I read all that about Photflo - I suggested some washing up liquid as for this purpose it will do as well. The thread that Deadants posted confirms what I said about reducing surface tension to cause the photo to float clear of the glass. Just remember to have the glass underneath and the photo on top.
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Re: Old photo stuck on glass
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 23:50 BST (UK) »

Thank you for pointing out the orientation of the glass/photo, hackstaple! I probably wouldn't have thought about it if you hadn't mentioned it. The water that I will be using to soak, should I start out with it being warm or will cold water be better?
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Re: Old photo stuck on glass
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 23:54 BST (UK) »

Can you scan it first before soaking? or is that going to be difficult?
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 23:56 BST (UK) »

I think I can scan it. The glass should fit onto my scanner. I wonder though, will the glass end up reflecting the light as it is being scanned?
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Re: Old photo stuck on glass
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 May 05 00:00 BST (UK) »

There's only one way to find out. Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 May 05 00:06 BST (UK) »

I'll let you all know how I get on when I get the chance to get scanning (unfortunately, my scanner isn't connected to this computer).
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 May 05 00:08 BST (UK) »

Well I just did a little experiment. Mine worked with the frame. It should work better without a frame.


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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 12 May 05 00:19 BST (UK) »

Thanks! It's great to have so many helpful and interested people to hand.
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 12 May 05 00:27 BST (UK) »

You've peaked our curiosty now. We will all be waiting to see how it works out. Maybe you could post your photo if it needs a bit of touching up.
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