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colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« on: Monday 23 January 12 11:03 GMT (UK) »

Am researching on A****y 's London Electoral Rolls, trying to match an address to the records-
Can anyone  tell me which ward/district Colville Square was in ?
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Re: colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 January 12 17:47 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Using Google maps the only Colville Square which appears today in London is in the modern borough of Kensington and Chelsea - then considering where it is on a modern map - in the metropolitan of Kensington not the metropolitan borough of Chelsea. Wards/polling districts and parliamentary constituencies like registration districts and London boroughs change overtime with the changes in population. Without having a ward map of the time period - which Kensington and Chelsea local studies library will have, that question would be much more difficult to answer.

Kensington and Chelsea local studies library

http://www.rbkc.gov.uk/az/az.asp?searchletter=&orgid=2112

This also presumes the Colville Square on a modern map of London was the only Colville Square. A square is less likely to have had duplicate with the same name somewhere else in London whereas with streets and roads that is more likely.


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Re: colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 January 12 23:07 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I've looked in my 1937 street atlas and there is only 1 Coville Square, in W11 Notting Hill Gate.

Looking at the Kensington & Chelsea site, they do have election ward maps and the street is currently in (4) Colville Ward.

http://www.rbkc.gov.uk/councilanddemocracy/thecouncil/councillors/findyourcouncillor.aspx

http://www.rbkc.gov.uk/councilanddemocracy/wards/colville.aspx

There are more wards now than there used to be due to population growth so I started going through the er's and found the street in Pembridge Ward L, so if you browse County = Kensington and Chelsea, select Parliamentary Division = Kensington, select 1932 and go to image 446.

You can also browse through, go forward 30 pages at a time and look at the tops of the pages to see which ward you are in, the streets are in alphabetical order. Cross referencing with the modern ward maps helps.

It's good fun to see where everyone was but you can now appreciate the problems faced when doing ER searches.

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Chandler-Chelsea
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Re: colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 26 January 12 19:11 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, dawn.
Am probably being a bit of a dope here but do I understand that it's possible to look through the 1932 er's via the web-sites you kindly quoted?
If so, could you help me out? I had a look at the sites but I couldn't quite see where to begin.
Thanks again for any light you can shed.
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Re: colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 26 January 12 19:33 GMT (UK) »

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You can access the historic London electoral registers if you have the correct subscription to Ancestry.

I posted the other links to illustrate the problems people will have if they don't know how the registers are compiled and that there are 'modern' hints and tips to be found if you know where to look.


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Re: colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 January 12 21:25 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, dawn.
I've managed to master the technique on Ancestry but then realised, looking more closely at my notes that the Colville Square I'm looking for was in Bayswater.
Or at least that's what it says on the birth cert. that I'm using as a source of info. Though the registration district is Kensington South.
I'm unfamiliar with London-does this make any sense to you?
The lady I'm seeking isn't on the ER in 1931 or 32 at the Colville Sq address in Kensington, so I'm unsure where to go now.
( the birth was at St Mary Abbotts, mother was married but no father named on cert. All a bit of a puzzle, but a last ditch attempt on our part to find out about the family of a man now 80, who as an evacuee lost touch with his family in WW2)
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Re: colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 January 12 22:34 GMT (UK) »

It's all the same area, if you look at a modern tube map (www.tfl.gov.uk) Notting Hill Gate is inbetween Bayswater and High Street Kensington on the circle/district line.

Historically, London developed from a collection of smaller villages that grew in size as the population expanded and merged together so that the edges blurred and the actual boundaries lost.

St Mary Abbots is the ancient parish church for Kensington.

The ER collection isn't complete and you had to be over 21 to vote. If she was living a transient lifestyle, regularly moving from one household to another, you may not find her.

Have you found any family members in a search?

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Re: colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 January 12 19:20 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, dawn.
St Mary Abbotts was also a hospital, formerly a workhouse.
It might be that the mother was under 21, which would explain her not being on the ER.
On the birth cert. she is a domestic servant, so maybe moved around or was working at the address in Colville Sq.
Perhaps she just "made up " her address for registration purposes.
It's highly unlikely that she's still alive today, indeed she was assumed lost in the blitz, but I'm not sure if I should give her name on-line?
Am going to have another look at the er's, later in the 30's by which time she would be over 21, though possibly married again.
All a bit tricky really.
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Re: colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 January 12 22:25 GMT (UK) »

Hi

WW2 Civilian deaths are recorded on the Commonwealth War Graves site.

http://www.cwgc.org/

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Re: colville sq. which electoral district 1932?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 January 12 18:47 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, Dawn, we did look in the CWGC records but with no luck- guess I'll just keep pegging away at it.
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