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louisa maud
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ANN CHARLOTTE MITCHELL BORN CIRCA 1882 POPLAR
« on: Wednesday 25 January 12 09:23 GMT (UK) »

I am having a great deal of problems with the  Mitchell family

George William Mitchell and Eliza Darby married 1865, they had various children but in 1882/1883 up pops an Ann Charlotte supposedly born of this couple. Ann married in 1902 to George Henry Pickers Poplar, she states she is 21and father George William Mitchell is shown as "deceased"

I have been unable to find Ann or her father on any census
Her address upon marriage is 8 Hale St , this is where one of her witnesses gives as her address but is no relation, can't find a baptism for her either, all her other siblings were baptised.

February 1911 I find Charlotte Pickers aged 27 George aged 38, Ethel aged 7 and George aged 5 on a passenger list to Australia

This whole family seem to evade the census man when he cometh

Any help much appreciated

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Re: ANN CHARLOTTE MITCHELL BORN CIRCA 1882 POPLAR
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 January 12 10:09 GMT (UK) »

FreeBMD gives this:

December qtr 1882
Poplar district    vol 1c, page 723
Mitchell, Ann Charlotte

So, purchasing the birth certificate would give you parents names!

BUT, when a young lady states her father is deceased it SOMETIMES is a way of covering up an illegitimate birth!

And, London Metropolitan Archives has this baptism in Poplar:
Baptism 7 Jul 1882, Birth 25 June 1882
Ann daughter of Ann Mitchell, Domestic Servant
No father named!

The birth certificate really would help here! Grin
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Re: ANN CHARLOTTE MITCHELL BORN CIRCA 1882 POPLAR
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 January 12 10:11 GMT (UK) »

Hi  Smiley
Could you please list the kiddies born, they may help us to find the family in census.
Thank you

Tinam
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Re: ANN CHARLOTTE MITCHELL BORN CIRCA 1882 POPLAR
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 January 12 10:15 GMT (UK) »

Hi again
There is a death in Qld 17.1.1961 for
Ann Charlotte Pickers
mother Elizabeth DARBY
father ARTHUR JOHN Mitchell.

Something not quite adding up here.

Tinam
Found the listing for marriage in 1865 George William Mitchell
there is another groom Alfred Wells,
2 brides Eliza Elizabeth Darley and Elizabeth Cole
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Re: ANN CHARLOTTE MITCHELL BORN CIRCA 1882 POPLAR
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 January 12 10:26 GMT (UK) »

That is interesting as Arthur John Mitchell is a witness to her marriage even though George William Mitchell is shown as her father, occ engine driver which is correct from baptisms, strange isn't it

I also beleive that Eliza Darby was really Elizabeth, the plot deepens

Ann Charlotte Pickers died in Australia

What is qld please ?

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Re: ANN CHARLOTTE MITCHELL BORN CIRCA 1882 POPLAR
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 January 12 10:44 GMT (UK) »

 Smiley Queensland

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 25 January 12 10:53 GMT (UK) »

I do have a marriage cert for George William Mitchell to Eliza Elizabeth Darby, I tied this in with the 1871 where Eliza is living with Ann C Darby, I find it quite strange Charles Henry born circa 1875, 9he lied about his age)  is not shown as ever living with George or Eliza as far as I can see.



Eliza I have never found since 1871 census, only on baptisms, what a mix up ??

I appreciate your help

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
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Re: ANN CHARLOTTE MITCHELL BORN CIRCA 1882 POPLAR
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 January 12 12:18 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Tinan, silly me

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: ANN CHARLOTTE MITCHELL BORN CIRCA 1882 POPLAR
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 26 January 12 08:43 GMT (UK) »

No worries LM
I'll see if I can find Arthur perhaps in electoral rolls.
Yes, it's very strange indeed, unless someone has given the
wrong info when she died.
Tinam
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Re: ANN CHARLOTTE MITCHELL BORN CIRCA 1882 POPLAR
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 26 January 12 09:08 GMT (UK) »

I've just found George Henry Pickers in Electoral Rolls.
Will have to dig a bit deeper as Charlotte is in same suburb but not living with him.
Mmmmm
Tinam
1949 they are together at 190 Breakfast Rd Fortitude Valley Brisbane.
In 1954 G Hy is with Lorna Clare & Gretta (clerk) at the same address.
Ann Charlotte at 3 Durong St same area.
1958 he's with Laura, no Gretta same address
Charlotte at her address.
Another family mystery for you  Smiley

Sorry forgot to add 1913 census they were together in the suburb of Herbert in Townsville Qld.


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