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Topic: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865 (Read 4205 times)
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liverpool annie
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Al - I REALLY think this is your Grandfather John b. 1897 - I think the sons-in-law are really stepsons and I think your great grandfather just liked "older women" - ANNIE is a wonderful name ......
1901 Bootle cum Linacre
Annie Creighton 1861 Bradford, Yorkshire Wife
John Creighton 1868 France Head
Christine Crighton 1845 ? Scotland Grandmother, Grandma
Elizabeth M Crighton 1895 Liverpool, Lancashire Daughter
George Crighton 1899 Liverpool, Lancashire Son
John D Crighton 1897 Liverpool, Lancashire Son
Mary E Crighton 1882 Liverpool, Lancashire Sister-in-law
Matilda Crighton 1886 France Niece
Mary Galloway 1858 Wakefield, Yorkshire Visitor
James A Patterson1886 Liverpool, Lancashire Son-in-law
John Patterson 1884 Liverpool, Lancashire Son-in-law
William Patterson 1890 Liverpool, Lancashire Son-in-law
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Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King
Be who you are and say what you feel - because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss
Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5
"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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alcrighton
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HI Annie,
I traced Alexander as follows:
- I have his name on Matilda's birth certificate
- I found his marriage to Matilda Jackson (5th Dec 1860, Alexander was 36), first from the IGI and then verified through the Scottish BMD images at Scotlandspeople
- There is a submitted IGI record for Alexander Crichton (with a c instead of a g) born 1824 in Airlee, Angus Scotland with parents stated as John Crighton & Isabel Sinclair. I think I also verified this through the pre-1854 Scottish parish registers at Scotlanspeople although I can't find the reference now  
- Alexander's elder daughter was named Isabella Sinclair Crighton - verified through the Scottish BMD images - supports the authenticty of the submitted IGI record.
Alexander had 3 sisters (Isabell, Margaret & Elizabeth) and two brothers, John (b.1821) and James (b. 1825) so it's possible that Christine was the widow of one of these. I guess I'll have to reluctantly get out the plastic again if I want to follow this up. Why do I always feel like I'm being ripped off at Scotlandspeople? Everybody else who comments on it here has nothing but praise and seems to get a 100% hit rate on the information they're looking for. I reckon mine is less than 10% so on a par with your 62 quid certificates in terms of value for money 
Cheers,
Al
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liverpool annie
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Mr C! - stuff!!
http://www.monikie.org.uk/ah-saintpeter.htm
http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/photodb/wc0598.htm
http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/photodb/wc0690.htm
http://dundee-howff.info/logiestones/57.htm
http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-006-273-C&PHPSESSID=76d1961dca355d9547c67bcb1676e0fa
http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/life/briefbio.htm
http://www.fdca.org.uk/howff/Initial%20J_1.html
http://www.basedn.freeserve.co.uk/explosion.htm
Spinning Mill Works: 19 dead 1859 April 15th Scouringburn, Dundee Scotland
Explosion Boiler exploded
Dundee 1851 Census
Z/51/109/
Mary Crighton Head Un 18 Factory Operative Ans Dundee
Jean Crighton Sister 10 Scholar Ans Dundee
Z/51/116/
Stewart Thompson Head Un 29 Ans Dundee
Agnes Farmer Dau 9 Ans Dundee
Agnes Thomas Lodger Un 27 Mill Worker Ans Dundee
Isabella Crighton Dau 2 Ans Dundee
Jessie More Lodger Un 30 Mln Edinburgh
Z/11/142//NO 18/
Mary Ann Crichton Head Un 27 Factory Worker Ans Panbridge
The British Almanac of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge
For the year of our Lord
1860
CHRONICLE OF OCCURRENCES.
Pages 256 - 263
From November 1858 to November 1859.
A large boiler at the extensive spinning-works at Scouringburn, near Dundee, belonging to Messrs. Edward, exploded while the mill was full of people. Nineteen persons, mostly young women, were scalded to death or buried in the ruins, and fourteen persons were severely injured. A woman passing along the street at the time of the explosion was killed by a blow from a portion of the building
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/towns/townhistory399.html
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Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King
Be who you are and say what you feel - because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss
Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5
"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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dkmcad
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Al, got some information for you on your Crichton and Jackson families - not sure if you already have this 
Old Parochial Records - Airlie (Births) - 4th February 1823
CREIGHTON - John Creighton and Isabell Sinclair at Littleton had a son born this day - Alexander Nicoll
Dundee 1851 Census (282 - Bk.13, page 11 - 40)
110 Seagate, Dundee
John Crichton Head mar. 51 Porter At Tay Ferry Born Airlie
Isabella Sinclair Wife Mar. 54 Born Eassie
Alexander Crichton Son Un.27 Power Loom Tenter?
Born Airlie
John Crichton Son Un.age 11 Scholar at home Born Dundee
Martha Jack Mother-in-Law Wid. 77 No Occup. Born Kirriemuir
1851 Dundee Census (Book 47, page 26 - 111)
Hilltown, Dundee
James Jackson Head Mar. 45 Railway Guard Born Ireland
Hellen Jackson Wife Mar 50 Born Forfarshire, Murroes
James Jackson Son 20 Un. Brush Maker Appr. Born Dundee
Barbara Jackson dau. Un 19 Power Loom Weaver, Born Dundee
Matilda Jackson dau. Un. 17 Power Loom Weaver, Born Dundee
Janet Jackson dau. 14 Scholar Born Dundee
Janet Chalmers Lodger 20 Power Loom Weaver, Born Dundee
Had a quick look at 1861 Census for Queen Street, but the Crichtons don't appear to be there at that time. Sorry, but couldn't go through the whole Dundee Census 
Hope you have some luck in finding them soon. They do not appear to be on the 1871 Scottish Census.
Cheers, Dorothy
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dkmcad
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Hi Al,
Glad to be of some help
Yes, I will check Queen Street again, next week and get back to you. It was only a very quick look as I was running out of time. I thought they should be there.
Did you notice John Crichton age 11 on the census? John Crichton was born to John Crichton and Isabell Sinclair 10th/27th April, 1839 in Dundee. Wonder what happened to the first John. Perhaps he died?
Also on the Census, not sure who Martha Jack, Mother-in-Law would be, perhaps you might know.
I wouldn't worry about the different spellings of the name, it all depended on who was recording as to whichever spelling was used. High levels of illiteracy in those days!
Unusual you can't find the family on any of the later census'. Just a thought, I see that James Jackson, Matilda's father was born in Ireland. Might just be possible that Alexander, Matilda and family went over to Ireland sometime before the 1871 census? I had a look for deaths on SP, but there is no sign of a Matilda Crighton (any spelling) which would fit in.
Anyway, will get back to you next week.
Dorothy
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