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alcrighton
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Hi again Dorothy,
I'd kind of dismissed the second John Crighton (b. 1839) as from my family for a number of reasons:
1. He was born so long after the rest of the children
2. The presence of the first John to the same parents
3. The IGI record I originally saw was a user submitted one.
Having thought about it and found that there is an extracted IGI record as well as the user submitted one, I think that the most likely possibility is that the first John died (as you said).
Martha Jack was Isabella Crighton's (Nee. Sinclair) mother. Martha married James Sinclair around 1820. It seemed to be common practice for married women to appear on the Scottish censuses under their maiden names. The 1841 census (Freecen) has John Crichton (sic) living with Isabella Sinclair, daughter Anne and son John aged 2 (there he is again!). The practice did not appear to be universal however- Helen Jackson is recorded under her married rather than maiden name (which was Ross).
I didn't know (nor did I spot from your post earlier  ) that James Jackson was born in Ireland but funnily enough, the possibility of an Irish connection occurred to me earlier today since Alexander was in the textile industry and I've since posted on the Irish board asking for help on following up this theory.
Looking forward to what you might be able to turn up.
Thanks again for your help.
Regards,
Al
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dkmcad
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Quite common for Scottish women to use their maiden name after marriage - we do like our independence 
Will get back to you.
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dkmcad
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Hi Al, found them on the 1861 census -
1861 Dundee Census - 282-1 Book 5/6 Page 36 -209
Stroners Land (could be Stomers Land it's not clear)
Alex N. Crichton Head Mar Age 36 Power Loom Overseer Born Forfarshire Airlie
Matilda Crighton Wife Mar Age 26 Born Dundee, Forfarshire
(Note the difference in the spelling of the name - Crichton/Crighton)
Sorry can't really help you with any more. Hope you manage to find what happened to them.
Dorothy
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alcrighton
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Hi Dorothy,
Thanks so much for this new information - I knew they had to be there in the 1861 census! Thanks also for all you've managed to find - it's helped a lot. The middle initial for Alexander ties up with the birth record you found me earlier and a death record I've just found on FreeBMD (it wasn't there a couple of months agi when I first looked):
Deaths, December Quarter 1900, West Derby, Lancs. Crighton, Alexander Nicol, Vol. 8b p. 281
So I finally have the first trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865!
Thanks again,
Al
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Glad to hear that, Al. Hopefully you will now find the rest. Dorothy
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Hi from Australia!
On my tree I have a Margaret Crighton Wilson who was born in Dundee in 1836, which leads me to believe that there could be a link to a Crighton grandparent or relative. Crighton usually is a surname.
Just on a wild of wildest possibilities on your tree do you have any links to families from this area with the surnames Wilson or Oliver?
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alcrighton
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Hi Elsie Ellen,
The only Margaret CRIGHTON I have in my tree is my gg Grandfather's sister, born in Glamis is 1826. It appears as if my ggg Grandparents moved to Dundee in the late 1830's and only their youngest son John (b. 1839) appears to have been born in Dundee. I haven't found any links to Wilson or Oliver although I haven't traced my family tree very far sideways.
I think the latest date for a possible link between our two families would have to be through a sibling of my 4xg Grandfather John CRIGHTON, born Airlee, Angus 1799. The sibling's I've found through the IGI are (Christenning dates in brackets):
Issabel (1783)
Elisabeth (1784)
Agnes (1785)
Margaret (1787)
William (1797)
George (1800)
There may have been more as the gap between 1787 & 1797 is strange. These are all records extracted from the old parish records so maybe the file is not complete? These records have been transcribed as CRICHTON but it seems that variations in spelling were pretty common in these records.
Let me know if you're able to make a link between any of these and your Margaret.
Regards,
Al
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I ordered the death certificate for my ggg Grandfather Alexander Nicoll CRIGHTON who died in Bootle in 1900 and the information has filled in quite a few blanks although has alas, still not helped me find out any more on the whereabouts of my elusive gg Grandmother Matilda.
Alexander's death was reported by his Daughter-in Law, Annie CRIGHTON of 100 Bedford Road, Bootle. This is the same address as the 1901 census entry that Paul & Annie found for a CRIGHTON family which I hadn't been able link to my own (page 2 of this thread)! Now I know that the head of household, John CRIGHTON must have been my gg Uncle, Matilda's younger Brother and he was born in France around 1867 - about 2 years after Matilda (born Dundee).
My g Grandmother must therefore have gone to France with her family before she was 2 years old. Where she went after that until she signed my Grandfather's marriage certificate in Marylebone in 1923 still remains a mystery.
Any more ideas anyone?
Regards,
Al
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alcrighton
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Annie!
1. John D CRIGHTON was the young soldier's cousin: John David CRIGHTON, (born Mar Q 1897, W. Derby 8b 462), son of John (born 1867, France). John (my Grandfather, born 1900, place & Father unknown), son of Matilda CRIGHTON (born 1865, Dundee).
2. William the Soldier & Musician was definitely a CRIGHTON although was probably my Grandfather's half brother. He was born in Marylebone 1st July 1894 so Matilda was in London in 1894 but I suspect she returned to France.
3. If you look at the census image, Christina is recorded as "S. Mother" to the head of household. She was 56 in 1901, some 20 years younger than Alexander so she has to be his second wife rather than his mother!
There are 3 Matildas in this story so it gets a bit complicated!
1. Matilda JACKSON (b. 1833, Scotland) married Alexander CRIGHTON (Dundee 1860)
2. Alexander & Matilda had 4 children that I know about: 3 born Dundee; James (1862), Isabella (1863), Matilda (my g Grandmother b. 1865) and 1 born in France; John b. 1867 - the head of household in the Bootle census entry from 1901
3. Matilda, the 15 year old niece of John in the 1901 census is most likely James's daughter although she could have been an illegitimate daughter of one of his sisters.
I think my next step has to be trying search the French records for signs of James, the death of Matilda (1.) as well as my elusive g Grandmother and my Grandfather. I've already done a bit of looking around and the on line records at least are very patchy and even the official ones are arranged by Departement. I'll therefore need some idea where in France to start looking. Since Alexander was in the textile industry, the Pas de Calais looks to be the most promising starting point.
How did you go about researching your French ancestors?
Any hints would be gratefully received.
Cheers,
Al
ps Just seen your info on the medal card - looks like it could be my Grandfather's cousin. How did a Marine Engineer end up in the Royal Army Medical Corps! 
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