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Topic: How does one get to search 1851/1861 Scottish Census (Read 4123 times)
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Keith Sherwood
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Hi Everyone,
This seems a pretty quiet site, and not much has happened since I last posted, so can I now ask how it is possible to view the 1851 and 1861 Scottish Censuses? There do not seem to be CD's for sale, and the scottishpeople website which you pay for does not seem to have these on line yet.
Was wanting to discover whether Daniel and Betsey DYSON had indeed gone to live in the Dunoon area by the time of the 1851 or 1861 Census; they were certainly there in the 1871 and thereafter through to the 1901...
Very best wishes,
Keith
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Sadly it is quiet in Scotland for look ups 
This is mainly due to the control over census copyright up here in the frozen north.
General Register Office for Scotland indexes and digital images are Crown copyright and are reproduced with the permission of the Queen's Printer for Scotland.
They have kept the commercial vendors at bay because they cannily realised it is lucrative for the GROS.
This means that cds aren't really available. FHS have, however, indexed many areas as a source of revenue. My experience is that the focus there is on 1841 and 1851 as these were before statutory registration of BMD.
Many of the big libraries in Scotland will hold the films for their area or maybe further afield. For example, Edinburgh library holds 100s of films for all of Scotland except for Angus, Aberdeen, Lanarkshire and Ayr (off the top of my head I can't remember all the exclusions). The problem is therefore with the time it takes to do a look up. I tried to do a look up in Falkirk but when I got there there was 7 rolls of film! It just isn't possible.
Freecen is focusing on the earlier census as the GROS site is moving backwards.
Hope this explains the situation.
Pam
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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Keith Sherwood
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Thanks, Pam,
I thought it might be a case of those canny Scots...However, this weekend friends of ours who live in Dunoon are coming down for my daughter's 18th birthday celebrations, and so I shall have to twist a few Scottish arms up behind their backs to try and persuade them to perhaps have a look for Census returns in their local Dunoon Town Hall or Library. Do you think they're likely to have microfilms of local Census returns for 1851/61 there...?
Keith
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My experience is in Dumfries and Edinburgh. For Dumfriesshire, Dumfries does hold films and indexes for some years. Whether Dunoon itself or some larger town I don't know.
I recommend giving Dunoon library a call...
http://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/dunoonlibrary?s=0&a=0
They'd be able to advise.
Pam
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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Keith Sherwood
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Thanks again for that, Pam,
The Scots from Dunoon are here at the moment, and they say they've got hold of someone at Dunoon Museum who's on my case - but I'll certainly give the Library a ring to see what they have to say about the Censuses...
Best wishes,
Keith
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I was in Dunoon last summer looking for a family in Ardentinny. The Library has all the Censuses available, you just go and ask.
Finding my Ardentinny family was easy as the place is so small, but it won't be too difficult to get through all of Dunoon. Census info can bring a whole new perspective onto a family, and I was well satisfied with my foray.
Manui
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Keith Sherwood
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Hi, Manui,
Thanks so much for that very encouraging message. I'll definitely pop into Dunoon Library when we're up there, hopefully later this summer...
Very best wishes,
keith
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manui
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Hi Keith.
Opening times and a phone number etc are on the web. I went without prior appointment and had no difficulties. Might be best to phone a week or so in advance and check if the situation has changed - it would be a shame to get there and find pre-bookings had taken up all the time, although I doubt that would be the case in such a small town. The info is on film rather than microfiche, by the way.
Regards, Manui
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Keith Sherwood
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Hi again, Manui,
...and thanks for all this information as well. I was half hoping that my Scottish friends who live up in Dunoon might be able to go into the Library there on my behalf - when they've got a spare few hours - to subject themselves to eyestrain on my behalf searching in the Buthkollidar area, just south of the town, in the 1851 and 1861 Census.
Things are definitely looking up here...
Very best wishes,
Keith
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Hi Pam etc
I take a monthly magazine which is very good - if you are English! Which I am not.
1837 online sent me an e mail this week to say that they are expanding the time limit for searches. What does Scotlands People do? They cut you off as fast as possible.
Two years ago they announced that they would have all census back to 1841 online by last April, no, not April 2005 but 2004. I had an e mail from them stating that.
I am still waiting.
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Keith Sherwood
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Funny how a thread lies silent for a while - nearly 8 weeks in the case of this one - and then it bursts into life again with several posts at once. Rather like those buses in London I used to wait for when I was younger...
However, thanks for considering Daniel and Betsey Dyson for me, Jinks, and they were indeed from Lancashire, Ashton-U-Lyne and then the Manchester area. And although the DYSON family is supposed to come way back (14th C., I believe) from the Slaithwaite area of Yorkshire, I am pretty sure the reference in the 1861 Census to a Daniel and Beth Dyson in Slaithwaite is not them. There were actually quite a lot of Daniel Dyson's in this area...
And Ibi, thanks for the update on how far they've got with those Argyll Censuses. I've now located Daniel and Betsey's grave and its detailed inscription in Dunoon; and I'm definitely coming up to Scotland, if not this summer, then later in the year to study the 1851, 1861 Censuses in Dunoon...
Very many thanks,
Keith
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....snipped...............And Ibi, thanks for the update on how far they've got with those Argyll Censuses. I've now located Daniel and Betsey's grave and its detailed inscription in Dunoon; and I'm definitely coming up to Scotland, if not this summer, then later in the year to study the 1851, 1861 Censuses in Dunoon...
Very many thanks,
Keith
Keith
While not in any way wishing to discourage you in terms of a visit , and yet more tourist income for Scotland, it could save time and money to contact G&WSFHS and find out the current situation, - to access their index certainly used to be possible for a non-member, albeit at a higher cost per look-up; or, if you need multiple look-ups it becomes economic to become a G&WSFHS member.
ibi
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