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!841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« on: Saturday 21 May 05 13:50 BST (UK) »

Looking for Elizabeth Cook, born Dunton c1830. Is there a Cook family residing in Dunton in 1841? any help much appreciated. Thanks. Kath
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 May 05 21:30 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I didn't see a Cook family residing in Dunton in the 1841 census

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SCOTLAND: Scotland, Morrison, Bonnella, Third,
LINCOLNSHIRE: Bell, King, Emerson, Leesing, Canty, Cutting, Fox,
GLOUCESTERSHIRE: Antill, Onslow, Crook, Jenkins,
LANCASHIRE: Hall, Mayson, Dearden,
WILTSHIRE: Sloper, King, Willis, Stockwell,
ESSEX: Stone, Webb, Smith, Hawkins, Frye,
SOMERSET: Harrison, Jones,
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 08:32 BST (UK) »

Thanks Sue - I'll have to go back to the drawing board!
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 15:47 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I guess they could be in a nearby village.  I didn't look further than Dunton, as I don't have an index to help with that kind of search.

Sue
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SCOTLAND: Scotland, Morrison, Bonnella, Third,
LINCOLNSHIRE: Bell, King, Emerson, Leesing, Canty, Cutting, Fox,
GLOUCESTERSHIRE: Antill, Onslow, Crook, Jenkins,
LANCASHIRE: Hall, Mayson, Dearden,
WILTSHIRE: Sloper, King, Willis, Stockwell,
ESSEX: Stone, Webb, Smith, Hawkins, Frye,
SOMERSET: Harrison, Jones,
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 18:58 BST (UK) »

Thanks Sue. Elizabeth is consistently given as born in Dunton on 1861/71/81 census whereas Joseph Henry Waller seemed to make it up as he went along! - Essex/Roxwell/Bowe.
My aged aunt remembers a romantic tale of Elizabeth living in a "big house" where Joseph worked possibly as a groom. They eloped and sailed to Hartlepool to live. How much is true and how much legend is open to question.
If you come up with any idea of how I might progress I would be very grateful. I think Great-great grandpa Joseph covered their tracks and I may have gone as far as I can.
Thanks for taking the time to look for me. Kath.
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 20:14 BST (UK) »

Hi Kath
There are 7 Elizabeth Cooks of right age in Essex. Only one living in a house with servants - in Manningtree. Others are in Weatherfield, Halstead, Boreham, Ardleigh. Boreham and Little Bromley. Happy to post details. Also had a look for Joseph Waller - there is a 3 yr old and a 5 year old both in Dagenham. Other than that only a 45 and 75 yr old. Again can post details. Let me know.
Regards Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 22:14 BST (UK) »

Hi, Jan. Please do post details if you can. Joseph was born c1828 - according to census data - so would have been 13 in 1841 - elusive character! The Elizabeth in Manningtree could be a possibility - trying to remember where Manningtree is. Looking forward to seeing details. Thanks for your help. Kath.
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 22:23 BST (UK) »

Will do that tomorrow. Could reply to this so it comes up as a new reply when I log in tomorrow? Cheers Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 June 05 08:14 BST (UK) »

Thanks Jan. That will be great. Looked at the map so I know where Manningtree is!! Quite feasible they hopped on a boat and sailed up the coast - think I'm romancing more than my aunt. Kath
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 01 June 05 12:28 BST (UK) »

1841
Manningtree
James Cook 44 Butcher
Elizabeth Cook 35
William 13
Elizabeth 10
Sarah 8
Louisa 6
George 5
John 3
Benjamin 2
Mary Ann 8 mnths
James Lambert 20 MS
Emma Eteen 15 FS
William Palmer 50 Lodger (crossed out)
All born in county
The last 3 are living in same house but listed as separate household
HO107-0338 ED1 Folio9 Pg12 and 13

There is a Joseph Waller 25 Butcher in St Mary Stoke Ipswich  which isn't far from Manningtree, but maybe too old for yours? Let me know if you find out anything more about this romantic boat trip Cheesy. Wasn't sure if you wanted other Elizabeths, let me know. Regards Jan Wink
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 June 05 12:51 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that Jan. Something else for me to puzzle over! Would you mind posting details of the other Elizabeth's? thanks.
That Joseph Waller would be too old - he seemed to stick with a birth year of1828ish. In 1861 he was a docker - the marine link continued! - from Bowe - living in Hartlepool with 2 children.
He would have loved the Marina now but I think a boat trip up the East coast in a little boat in 1840something would have been far from romantic. I will keep you posted if I find anything to back up the legend! Kath
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 June 05 16:55 BST (UK) »

Some more for you to ponder, Kath Cheesy Jan

Village, Weathersfield
Hannah Betts 50 Ind
Matilda Cook 40
Sarah Cook 20
Elizabeth Cook 10
Martha Cook 9
Matilda Cook 7
in same house but separate household
Joseph Willsmore 30 Ag Lab
Charlotte Willsmore 23
Harriet 5
HO107-0333 ED5 Folio4 Pg2

Halstead
Samuel Cook 40 Labourer
Ann Cook 30
Elizabeth 11
William 10
Ann 7
Samuel 5
Sarah 2
Hannah 10 mnths
HO107-0332 ED2 Folio27 Pg13

Shop Street, Barking
Susan Cook 30
Susan Cook 11
Elizth Cook 9
Louisa Cook 7
HO107-0323 ED5 Folio49 Pg16

Slow Cottage, Ardleigh
Joseph Cook 40 Ag Lab
Ruth Cook 30
Maria 10
Elizabeth 8
Alfred 5
Jonathan 3
David 7wks

with this family on same page
John Waller 45   box  Huh
Susan Waller 40
Jane 14
William 12
Elizabeth 10
George 6
James 3
HO107-0338 ED2 Folio19 Pg3

and this family
Dead Lane, Ardleigh
Jacob Waller 30 Ag Lab
Sarah Waller 25
HENRY 6  Huh
Could Joseph Henry have lied about his age to marry under 21 without parents permission and then stuck with the false age perhaps Undecided Ardleigh is not far from Manningtree and thus near the coast. I'd like it if someone could find them both in 1851 working at one of the nearby Halls before setting off on their rough journey up the coast  Roll Eyes Grin
Sarah 4
Mary 1
HO107-0338  ED3 Folio40 Pg13

Hukers Farm, Little Bromley
William Cook 40 Ag Lab
Sarah Cook 40
Bartholmew 15
William 12
Ester 10
Elizabeth 8
Ann 2
Bartholmew Cook 75 Ag Lab
HO107-0338 ED10 Folio5 Pg5

No more Joseph or Henry Wallers in areas near the Elizabeths, or anywhere else for that matter.
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: !841 look-up, please - Cook, Dunton
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 01 June 05 18:12 BST (UK) »

Thanks, Jan. The Ardleigh connection looks promising - or am I just praying it is?
I am sure J.H. had no qualms about lying and covering his tracks. The ag.lab. Wallers could suggest they worked for a landowner and J.H. may have become a groom at the same place.  I will persevere!
Thanks so much for your help. I'll keep you posted if anything turns up. Kath
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