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mags913
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Can anyone suggest where I should look for the birth date/place of my great grandfather William Fewings born circa 1829. I have searched all censuses from 1841 - 1881. I can only find the family on the 1881 census where all the family's names, ages and places of birth are mixed up.The only positive information that I have is his marriage in 1856 in Plymouth. Help! where else can I look? 
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bekahsgran
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Hi
There are 2 possibles on the 1861 census, have you any details of wife children etc to narrow it down.
One is in Dorset and one in Gloucestershire.
Get back to me and I'll look again
Anne
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mags913
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Hi Anne
His wife was called Jane Fewings nee Hatch and she was born in South Brent. They were married in 1856 in Plymouth however they had no children until 1861 which is a little suspicious to me. Their first son was born in September 1861 but died at 11 Weeks from syphilis!!! Does this mean that Jane was a prostitute? They lived at 9 York Place, Plymouth.
Their daughter was Rosina Jane born 1863 again the address is 9 York Place.
Their third child was William John born 1868 Back Street, Tywardreath. In 1870 my grandfather James Richard Hatch Fewings was born at 6 Masons Row, Torquay. The youngest child John Thomas was born at 5 Edgcumbe Place, Plymouth in 1872, the surname being spelt Fewins.
They do not appear to have settled in any one place for long and I cannot find them on the 1871 census for Torquay, Paignton or Brixham.
The only other information I have is a witness on their Marriage Certificate is given as James Fewings and have tried to link them as brothers or cousins. There is no father's name given on the certificate so I presume he was illegitimate. Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards
Margaret
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bekahsgran
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HiMargaret
I have searched and searched the 1861 but can't find them anywhere, but on the 1871 I found this:
RG 10 Piece 2120 Folio 17 Page 28
33 Queen Street, St Andrew, Plymouth
William Head Marr 43 Labourer b Tiverton, Devon birth abt 1828/9
Jane Wife Marr 37 b Brent, Devon birth abt 1834/5
Rosina Daur 8 Scholar b Plymouth, Devon birth abt 1863
William Son 5 b ?Tywardreath?, Cornwall b abt 1866
James Son 5mths b Torquay, Devon birth abt 1870
This seems perfect, wouldn't you agree? BUT................only one spanner in the works they are listed as DAVEY. I've checked the actual image and it definitely says DAVEY.
What do you think?
Anne
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bekahsgran
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Hi
Its me again
1891 Census
Transcribed as Fenning but the image definitely says FEWINGS
RG12 Piece 1739 Folio 120 Page 44
27 Hobart Street, East Stonehouse, Devon
Jane Fewings Head Widow 58 Living on own means b Brent, Devon
Rosina J Froud Daur Marr 26 b Plymouth, Devon
William John Fewings Widower Son 22 Printers Machinist b Cornwall
You may have it,,but just in case you haven't
Anne
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janan
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Hi
Anne I don't see how it can not be them, but what's the name change about 
Couldn't find any William Fewings in Tiverton but did find this family
Wellbrook, Sparkes Building, Tiverton
William Davey 45 Ag Lab
Ann Davey 50
James Davey 15 Ag Lab
William Davey 12
All born in county
HO107-0255 ED9 Folio10 Pg15
What do you think Margaret?
 Jan
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bekahsgran
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Hi Jan
I've been trying to figure this out myself, because I thought that sooner or later Margaret might ask me the same question, and as yet, I HAVEN'T A CLUE!
Also if your 1851 family is correct, there is a brother James a little older than William and Margaret did say that Williams marriage cert showed a witness as JAMES FEWINGS, another PLUS I would say.
Any ideas why they should have changed their name? I agree with you, its just got to be them, if its not I'll eat my hat!
Anne
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bekahsgran
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Hi
Guess what its me again.
BMD Indexes
December Qt 1889 Marriages- District:East Stonehouse County:Devon
Rosina Jane Fewings and Absolom Henry Froud
December Qt 1898 Marriages- District:Devonport County:Devon
Rosina Jane Froud and
John Henry Brabyn OR Frank Edward Brown
Anne
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mags913
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Hi Anne and Jan
What can I say? I am dumbfounded. Everything you have written fits in precisely with what little information I have.
There is a William Fewings on the 1851 census age 22 described as SonL which I have worked out as step son of Nathaniel and Ann Davey.
and there is the link with Tiverton I think? I wonder if William was the illegitimate son of Ann Fewings who then became Ann Davey.
I knew about Rosina's marriage but have often wondered why I couldn't find her and Absolem on later censuses. Hadn't considered she may have remarried.
Where do I go from here? I am so excited I will have to take a few deep breathes before I carry on.
You are two fantastic people to go to all this trouble for me. I have been searching for a clue to William's birth for 20 years and found nothing and in a few short hours you have opened up a whole new world. Thank you so much I will be burning the midnight oil following up all the clues.
If I can ever reciprocate the help please do not hesitate to ask.
Thank you once again.
Margaret
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janan
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Hi again Margaret,
Found this family in 1841- might be Ann's parents No other Fewings in Tiverton.
Tiverton
John Fewings 60
Jane Fewings 60
John Fewings 15
Jane Fewings 10
HO107-0255 ED8 Folio7 Pg 8
And a possible step brother for William
Priors Quarter, Tiverton
Nathanial Davey 10
HO107-0255 ED12 Folio11 Pg16
Slightly bothered regarding my earlier post: where is Nathaniel the elder and who is William senior if not the father Unfortunate the 1841 doesn't give relationships.
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mags913
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Hi Ann and Jan
I have spent the last couple of nights going through all my records and the only link that I can find is the marriage of Ann Style to a John Fuens on the 25 February 1828 at Creacombe. The same birthplace as William Fewings on the 1851 census for Plymouth and the date fits as well. Which would mean that Ann was a widow when she married Nathaniel Davey. However I can't find the second marriage at the moment (but have no fear I WILL)!!! I suspect that it may be around Bickleigh as Nathaniel and Ann's two eldest children were born there circa 1840. There is an 11 year age gap between William and the twins so there is a possibility of William having other siblings or Ann and Nathaniel having older children.
I know! Don't run before I can walk. 
I have to ask you Ann because curiosity is killing me. How did you isolate the family Christian names from the census and what made you think of it?
Jan do you think it is worth following the Fuens/Fewins/Fewings trail around Tiverton or should I look further afield as Ann gives her birthplace on the 1851 census as Morebath, Somerset. Am I right in thinking that it is actually on the borders of Somerset and Devon.
Regards
Margaret
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arishmell
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Hi Margaret
I have a distant branch of Fewings/Fewins in my tree. Those I have details of come from Monk Okehampton and Hatherleigh. I have a John Fewings, b.1781, marrying an Ann?? b. 1796 - I have no place of birth for either. As far as I can see they have no son William, though they do have a James, b. 1835. Wonder if there is any connection?
Maureen
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Researching:
Waycott, Fewings, Piper, Burgoyne, Johns, Phillips, Paddon, Streat;
Morrish, Rowdon, Pike, Lowder, Flood, Parsons and others.
All in glorious Devon!
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mags913
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Hi Maureen
Thanks for the information I will let you know if I find there is a link. I am debating at the moment whether to put a map of Devon on the wall and to start sticking pins in the parishes where the Fewings/Fewins name appears. There has to be a link somewhere but I just can't find it.
The problem lies in the enormous amount of information available on-line and the amount of information that is only accessible in person. Everytime I find a new website or CD I find another Fewings/Fewins from another parish. I thought it would be easy to trace an unusual name but it's almost as difficult as tracing the Smiths and Johnsons for my husband. Ce la vie!!!
Thanks once again I will get back to you if I find the missing link.
Margaret
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debbi2k
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Hi all,
I found this in GENUKI which might help with the Somerset/Devon question.
http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Morebath/
Debbi
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Emery,Willis,Cawsey,Gibbings,Stevens and Newcombe;Devon
Monk,Griffths,Kingdon ; Gloucs,Oxfordshire and Bristol
Janes;Woolwich,Charlton
Sculpher;Norfolk,Bermondsey
Grubb:Wiltshire
Morgan and Davis;Eglwysilan,Glam
Kingdon,Saunders,Greedy,Tarr;Somerset
Poore;Berkshire
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janan
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Hi Margaret
Sorry ignore this post, now found the family on later census  :-[Jan
Just want to throw this 1861 family into the pot. I know it suggests Jane and William did have a child before 1861 and that William had children with Jane or someone else before their marriage, and Jane's birthplace is wrong but still think it might be worth filing as a possible. What do you think? There is no other 1861 match I can find for this couple. Jan
4 Mitchell Lane Bristol
William Davey Head Mar 30 Labourer Devon Tiverton
Jane Davey Wife Mar 34 Devon Tiverton
William Davey Son 10 Errand Boy Devon Tiverton
Francis Davey Son 9 Scholar Devon Tiverton
John Davey Son 3 Gloucestershire, Bristol
RG9/1714 ED14d Folio17 Pg4
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