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Topic: 1841/1851 Ledbury Look up please (Read 242 times)
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helxx
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I'd really appreciate a look up on the following person please 
AUGUSTUS BRIMMELL
All I know is that he was born around 1836-1838 in Ledbury. Unfortunately I can't find him on IGI as I'm desperate to know his parents names.
I am waiting for his marriage cert at the moment, so that will tell me his fathers name but I'd love somebody to find him on either (or both!) census', I have him 1861 onwards.
A lady on another site tried to find him on 1851 and did find him on the 1851 census index but couldn't find him on the census itself as her copy is faded in parts.
She found the following:
Augusta Smith BRIMMELL - 15 - Ledbury -( 1975 - 201a)
Any help at all would be fab!!!
Thanks very much
Helen x
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bagpuss
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Hello Helen,
I see what you mean! the Ledbury 1851 Census page 201 is of very poor quality - I only managed to make out his name as I knew what I was looking for,  it only revealed that he was in service and not with the rest of his family, I did manage to find this Brimmell family though, on page 206a which looks very likely to be his -
1851
Wellington Heath, Ledbury
John S Brimmell 45 Head M Keeper Herefordshire, Ledbury
Maria S '' 44 Wife M '' ''
John S '' 23 Son Un Ag. Lab '' ''
Esther S '' 11 Daur '' ''
Harriet S '' 8 Daur '' ''
William S '' 6 Son '' ''
Sidney S '' 3 Son '' ''
Samuel S '' 9m Son '' ''
Also, page 200a, -
Mary S Brimmell 18 Servant Herefordshire, Ledbury
I'll check on the 1841 Census and see if I can get them all together. It might take a little while though, as Ledbury covers quite a few pages.
All the best
Sue
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helxx
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Sue,
Thanks so much for looking
I believe that John and Maria are connected to Augustus somehow but still trying to work it out! I've come across them before on later census'.
Re Augustus being in service, do you mean he's a servant, sorry if I'm being thick!
I'd really appreciate the look up in 1841 - there's no rush, but I can't wait either - fingers crossed!!
Best Regards
Helen x
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helxx
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Hi Sue,
You're a star! 
I'm REALLY confused though now!
As I couldn't find a baptism on IGI for Augustus Brimmell, as the other lady on another site found him on the index as Augustus Smith Brimmell, I looked again on IGI.
I found an entry for an Augustus Brimmell in 1835, son of John and Maria Smith! I can't get my head around it.......John Brimmell, and even Maria and all the children have the middle initial 'S' which makes me think they all stand for 'Smith'
I've also found a baptism on IGI for Esther Smith, again daughter of John and Maria Smith!!!
Hope I'm making sense!
I just can't figure out what it's all about. Any ideas??
I'll post this on query on the help board if not as I know this is just a board for lookups!
Thanks again Sue, I really appreciate your time and help.
Best Regards
Helen x
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helxx
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Hi Sue,
I think I've worked it out. Phew!!
I've looked for a baptism for John Smith and found one in 1806, Ledbury.
'John Brimmer Smith'
Son of Elizabeth Smith.
I'm guessing that Brimmer has been transcribed incorrect and should be Brimmell. John was obviously illegitimate. All his childrens baptisms would have to be in the name of 'Smith' as that is his name but he obviously chose to call himself 'Brimmell' after his father's name.
Again I hope I'm making sense and I also hope I'm right with my hinch!
Helen x
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Hi Sue,
Thanks again for all your help
I'm off to bed now, I'm one happy bunny!
Helen x
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helxx
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Woohooo!!!!!
Sue, What can I say? No, I hadn't found that on IGI.
Thanks a million!!!!
I'm definitely off to bed now.
Helen x (beaming like a cheshire cat)
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Hi Tracey,
Nice to hear from you
I'll send you a PM in a sec
Helen x
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Hi Tracey,
I just wondered if you'd read your personal message that I've sent?
Helen
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and yes, Augustus is described as "Servant" in 1851, one of 4 others. I can't make out the names of the others in the household though, sorry.
