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findem
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« Reply #15 on: Friday 19 November 04 09:48 GMT (UK) » |
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Hi Jen,
Just noticed your reply to my post, sorry I didn't reply to it sooner but from the 1st of Oct to 5th Nov I was over in the UK, Essex, with no computer access. There was no email awaiting me on my return to Oz advising of your post, I just on an impulse decided to check out some of my posts and noticed your reply.
At this stage I have no Welsh connection with my Warners and quite frankly would rather not have one  . I can only get to the UK every second year and travelling to Wales from Essex would rob me of time in the Essex Records office.
Having said that I do have a Mary JONES who married Jonathon Cornwall in 1720 at Kelvedon, Essex, whom I haven't found yet, she is linked to my Warners via the Cornwalls.
As far as my Warners go I achieved nothing this trip except that I now know that Robert was not baptised in Leigh On Sea or Gt Wakering.
Regards
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Welsh Jen
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« Reply #16 on: Friday 19 November 04 09:57 GMT (UK) » |
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Ok, watch yourself I'm Welsh 
With regards to your Warner's If you should find welsh connections let me know as I may be able to help you with the resources I have at home.
Kindest Regards and all the very best in your research
Jen 
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findem
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« Reply #17 on: Friday 19 November 04 10:58 GMT (UK) » |
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OK Jen I'll watch out.
Thanks for the offer, there was a time when I would have dismissed any thought of ancestors outside Essex. Now I have Sturdy from Yorkshire, Harris & Clarke from Suffolk and Dalton & Beales from Norfolk. So I'll keep your offer in mind because you never know where the trail will go. One thing I do know for sure is that I do have some Celtic blood but whether it is Welsh, Scots or Irish I wouldn't have a clue, maybe one day I'll find out.
Regards and good luck with your research.
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Alistair
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« Reply #18 on: Monday 22 November 04 22:50 GMT (UK) » |
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Hi Findem,
Just seen your conversation with the Taffy girl in which you say you might have some Celtic blood in you. You might be lucky, my mother was a a Warner from the Great Dunmow- Hatfield Broad Oak mob, I was born in Scotland and am as Scots in attitude As the Black Watch. My ancestors on that side were Ulster Scots who can go back to the Border Rievers. This makes Ancestor hunting intriguing, confusing, exhilarating when there is a little success, and lots of fun. Not only that but I have met some very fine fellow genealogists in my cyber travels. Now, I am still chasing Warners from Essex and am particularly keen to find the parents and siblings of John Warner who married Martha Perry in 1771, anyone chasing these or any other Gt. Dunmow Warners would make welcome contacts,
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Alistair
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findem
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 23 November 04 22:44 GMT (UK) » |
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Hi Alistair,
My next search will be Little Wakering for my Robert Warner although at this stage I suppose anywhere in Essex is a likely location. Hopefully I'll be at the ERO around February 2006, all being well, my mother will be 100 come mid February 2006 so we will be in the UK to celebrate.
I think your Border Rievers will lead you a fine dance (hotfoot pursuit?), a lot of the English and Scots border rievers had related families on both sides of the border.
Good luck with your Warners.
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Alistair
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« Reply #20 on: Monday 29 November 04 05:56 GMT (UK) » |
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Thanks Findem,
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Alistair
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« Reply #21 on: Monday 29 November 04 06:01 GMT (UK) » |
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Thanks Findem,
Give my regards to your mother, that is quite an achievement in this day and era. I feel decidedly youthful at seventy-six.. have a good trip to the UK , I hope you can sort out those pesky Warners. As for the Border Reivers, if you read a bit try ' The Steel Bonnets' they would have a hard job making a film about them.
All the best
Alistair
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findem
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« Reply #22 on: Monday 29 November 04 10:04 GMT (UK) » |
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Will pass on your regards Alistair.
Who wrote Steel Bonnets? sounds like my kind of book.
I've read a lot of Nigel Tranter's books, there is mention of the Border Riever families in several of his books, he sometime uses the term "Moss Troopers" to describe them. I suppose you know that in the battles against the English the Moss Troopers were used as a light cavalry, I have loads more "useless info" like that
Regards.
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Alistair
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 01 December 04 01:15 GMT (UK) » |
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Good morning Findem,
George Macdonald-Fraser wrote ' The Steel Bonnets'. he used to be a newspaper editor and also wrote the Flashman series. It really is a great insight into border history in the sixteenth century.
One reviewer described the reivers as 'back-stabbing, double-crossing, treacherous, thieving......' . I think he must have met them on their best behaviour. There is nothing surer than that they could easily be mistaken for modern politicians. Anyone with Armstrong, Graham, Douglas or other border blood in them might learn a bit from the book.
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Alistair
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findem
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 01 December 04 22:32 GMT (UK) » |
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Thanks for that Alistair, I'll have a look for the book.
I am an avid reader and have read quite a few of the Flashman books.
There is another book entitled "The General Danced at Dawn?" (think that's right) which I believe is by the same author and hilarious, it is centred around a Highland Regiment. I'm not 100% sure it's by George MacDonald-Fraser so I had a quick look but couldn't find it, I'll look again when I get off the net.
Back-stabbing, double-crossing, treacherous, thieving, certainly describes politicians over here, especially the current mob, what is most worrying is that they appear to consider it's acceptable to behave that way.
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Alistair
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 09 December 04 10:32 GMT (UK) » |
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Thank You Emma,
There is certainly a lot of confusion over the myriads of John Warners. I have the John born in 1802 as the first child of John b.1774 and Sarah Joyce. The earlier ones might be related to John and Mary Scrivener who married in 1732. I will have another check. As you say there may be others hunting members of this tree. 'Findem' and Bob Woods perhaps may be able to help (hint hint!)
All the best
Alistair
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« Reply #28 on: Friday 10 December 04 04:24 GMT (UK) » |
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Hello Emma,
The records I made during my quick trip to Chelmsford in May show a John Warner baptised June 6 1802, aged 10 weeks, son of John and Sarah. ... labourer...Green Church. I also have John Warner marrying Sarah Joyce on 11 Oct. 1798 in presence of Stephen Warner and John Gunn. These are the only two I found who could be John b.1802's parents, however, there may be others.
The Green Church bit is interesting, I wonder if that was the United Reform Church,
Regards
Alistair.
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So, if John Warner b.1802 - the one at the Reformed Church is the eldest son of John Warner and Sarah Joyce, then that will answer the questions as to who he was...