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Topic: Age of child to be baptized in early 1800's? (Read 746 times)
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Mobo
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I would certainly think so Karen - Catholics place great importance on baptism, as soon after birth as possible !
And if the authorities had closed down the local Catholic Church or Chapel (which was quite common then), the priest would have carried out the ceremony in the home. And.... if the child looked unlikely to survive, the parents did it themselves if a priest couldn't get there in time !
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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs. Website: http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) |
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KarenM
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That's what I figured, I have a 3xgr grandfather that according to census and death cert. was born between 1808 & 1812, but just found a person with the same name in the BVIR, saying that he was baptized in 1829. I was hoping that would be him, but the years are to far apart. I'm not sure weather to pursue this new information or keep looking?
Karen
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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
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Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
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Mobo
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Karen,
I wish I could help, but I've learned from past experience, never to disregard any information I find - it nearly always fits in somewhere, later on. It's up to you whether you pursue this or not. I'm afraid that sometimes in this game, we just have to take a 'leap in the dark'
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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs. Website: http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) |
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Mobo
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Were the children catholic and did these events take place in Ireland Sutton - do tell ??
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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs. Website: http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) |
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Mobo
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Karen, I suspected Sutton hadn't read your initial post correctly !
As to the age difference, it was very common for Irish men to be a bit 'long in the tooth' when they married, expecially if they had emigrated. This was because they were expected to 'send money home' to the family in Ireland.
Take my Irish for example -
Patrick Dunn was born circa 1817 in County Mayo
He came to England circa 1845,
He married Mary NcNulty in 1850 when she was just 17, and also from Ireland.
As these immigrants were usually illiterate, they could only guess at their actual age, so there were always discrepancies between Census returns and certificates, sometimes huge ones !!
So, as I said, the choice is yours, follow up the info you have, or start another search. If it were me, I would do the former, just to make sure, if nothing else.
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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs. Website: http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) |
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Butterfly
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Baptism of children in Ireland soon after birth also depended if there was a priest available, especially in country areas. Although most towns and cities would have a church. Many priests were itinerant, and people would have to wait until one was in their area. The Penal laws were in force until 1778.
If there was a danger of death the parents could baptise the child, if not then they would await the priest.
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Surnames: Moynihan, O'Leary, Murphy, MacGillycuddy: Kerry, Ireland
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Bee
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Hi Karen
I've ususally found that when there is a big age gap between the husband and wife, that the husband has been widowed and has married for a 2nd time.
Bee
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corinne
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One possibility for a person of adult age to be baptised is that they converted to a different religion (perhaps so they could get married in the new religion). Catholics particularly would put pressure on a non-catholic intended to convert so that any children could be brought up good catholics.
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