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Topic: a past relative in cradely heath area? (Read 1393 times)
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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Do you have the names/details of this daughter,please.
There is a John Jeavons Fellows in Cradley on 1861 but we need other names to track them down.. Also name of her young man to place him in same place
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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'Tricia
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The only way to solve this mystery is through Amy Rose Harris - by tracing her ancestry back to her grand parents.
We therefore need to know her birthplace and birth date and parents.
The marriage you referred to is listed on West Midlands BMD and you can order the cert from them. Hopefully this will give both her age and her father and we can get the ball rolling.
The best bet would be to get hold of her birth certificate which would then give her mother's married name and her maiden name which should be Fellowes if your information is correct.
At the moment we just have this:-
Marriage
John F Charles
Amy R Harris
St Luke Cradley Heath
Reference:-
Sandwell 20/3/333
This is the West Midlands reference number to be used if you order the cert from them
Superintendent Registrar
Sandwell Register Office
Highfields
High Street
West Bromwich
West Midlands
B70 8RJ
Payment to Superintendant Registrar - £7 + a stamped self addressed envelope. Cheque to be crossed '& Co'
I have looked for Amy Rose Charles on 1901 but haven't been able to spot her.
I will have another play around because she really should be showing up somewhere. Did she stay in the Cradley area after marriage?
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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'Tricia
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I have found an Amy Harris born 1876 in Cradley. Her father is William and mother Sarah . He is a Horse Nail Maker.
We need to match this up with her father on marriage. If no-one else replies to this request in the meantime send for the cert and then come back.
This is the birth reference. Cradley registers in Stourbridge
HARRIS, Amy Birth Quarter ending March 1876
Stourbridge
6c
195
Keep a note of it until later when we may be able to match it up. May not be her, of course.
Good Luck, Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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There is also
Amy Rose Harris birth Dec qtr 1877 Stourbridge 6c 184
Hard to be sure without the certificates but there is
1891
Rg12-2281/96
73 Cradley Rd,Cradley Heath
Elijah Harris,49,Worcs,Cradley
Emma J Harris,41,Worcs,Netherton
Mary M Harris,21
Ralph H Harris,16
Amy R Harris,13
Edith E Harris,7
And in 1861 there were
RG9-2062/111
Cradley Road,Dudley
John Jeavons Fellows,44,Farmer and victualler
Rosannah Fellows,42
Kesiah (?) J Fellows,18
Elizabeth J Fellows,16
David J Fellows,13
Emma J fellows,11,Worcs,Dudley
William Henry J Fellows,6
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1901
Rg13-2733/122
Station St,Cradley Heath
Elijah Harris,59,Cradley,Worcs
Emma J Harris,51,Old Hill,Staffs
Amy R Charles,23,telephone operator,Stourbridge,Worc
Edith E Harris,18,Barrow in Furnace,Lancs
Rose H Jeavons,moth,wid,83,living on own means,Old Hill,Staffs
Who needs certificates?  Nice to see that Mrs Jeavons was not part of the "never darken my door" movement. 
This may be Elijah in 1861
Rg9-2064/36
Overend,Cradley
Thomas Harris,58,Staffs,Kingswinford
Mary Maria Harris,55,Worcs,Cradley
Arthur Harris,25,Worcs,Cradley
Caroline R Harris,House maid,Worcs,Cradley
Elijah Harris,19,Millman,Worcs,Cradley
And in 1881 Elijah and family were in Barrow in Furness but you should find them at family search. Amy is down as Agnes for some reason 
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'Tricia
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That's it, brilliant!  Back full circle to John Jeavons Fellows.
(I nipped off to watch Desperate Housewifes - how sad is that)!
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Here I go again. A possible marriage
BRAGGER, William 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
DAVIES, Sarah 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
Fellows, John 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
Price, Susannah 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
Trowmans, Rosanna 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
Quarter ending September 1839
Dudley
18
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If you can get them on 1851 there may be an earlier child if this is them.
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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1872 18 Aug John Jeavons Fellows Cradley Heath 59 Years Died 14th Aug
Hi again
I think this may be John even though his age is a bit off: the 61 census has him born 1816 but this is 1813. Not much in it though and it is the right name and place. And it agrees with his age in 1871
1871 has them at 61 Dudley wood,Netherton
Rg10-3017/138
John Jevon Fellows,57,carter,Dudley Wood,Worcs
Rosannah 52,Dudley Wood
William,17,carpenter,Dudley Wood
1881
Rg11-2862/87
59 Reddall Hill Rd,Rowley Regis
Rosanna Jeavons,head,W,62,late farmers wife,Worcs,Dudley
Rg12-2282/97
59 Reddall hill Rd,Rowley Regis
Rosehanna Fellows,head,widow,73,-,Dudley,Worcs
Rosannah Jeavons Fellows, death aged 85
Dec qtr,19013,Dudley,6c,10
She doesn't seem to be on the transcript for Cradley heath burials but I would expect her to have been buried there so you may need to check that out better.
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Here I go again. A possible marriage
BRAGGER, William 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
DAVIES, Sarah 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
Fellows, John 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
Price, Susannah 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
Trowmans, Rosanna 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
Quarter ending September 1839
Dudley
18
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If you can get them on 1851 there may be an earlier child if this is them.
I think you are right with this Tricia, spot on
John Jeavons or Fellows and Rosannah Trowmans marriage 16 Sep 1839, St Thomas,Dudley
1851 census
Bowling Green,Dudley 2033/552
John Jeavons,36,colliery labourer,bowling green,worcs
Rosannah,wife,32,New Town,Worcs
Benjamin,son,11,chain maker,New Town,Worcs
Keziah,dau,nurse,New Town,Worcs
Elizabeth,dau5,scholar,Bowling Green,Worcs
Davis,son,2,Bowling Green,Worcs
Emma Jane,dau,8 m,Bowling Green,Worcs
So! John had two names and several jobs by the look of it. Benjamin is bpt as Jeavons at Dudley St Thomas on the IGI
Born 27 Feb 1840, bpt 26 Jul 1841 St Thomas,Dudley, parents John Jeavons and Rosannah.
1861
Rg9-2061/35
Netherton Hill
Benjamin J Fellows,head,21,carter,Netherton,Worcs
Drucilla Fellows,20,Netherton,Worcs
Just so you know, one of my families was at Netherton Hill in '61 Makes us almost neighbours 
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