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The Purslows of Acton Scott, Diddlebury and Shiffnal.
« on: Friday 27 May 05 18:12 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Can anyone help me.  I have just received my grandmothers marriage cert., and it shows her father as being JOHN PURSLOW  deceased - a soldier.  I know she was born in l877 and that on the l881 census she is shown as living with her grandparents.  Also the same on the l891 census.  I cannot make any sense of this.  The only John Purslow shown as being a relation is her uncle who was only 7 at the time of her birth.  Her grandparents were Benjamin and Elizabeth Purslow and I cant get any further back that them!!!!!  I am frustrated.   Can anyone help.
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Re: The Purslows of Acton Scott, Diddlebury and Shiffnal.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 May 05 18:53 BST (UK) »

Hi

On the 1861

RG9 / 1839 / 23 / 9

Benjaman Purslow, head, mar, 33, shepherd, Tenbury, Worcestershire.
Elizabeth, wife, mar, 34, Acton Scott, Shropshire.
Sarah E, daur, 10. scholar, Eaton, Shropshire.
Mary A, daur, 7, scholar, Acton Scott, Shropshire.
Clarisa, daur, 4, Dewsall, Herefordshire.
Fanny, daur, 1, Diddlebury, Shropshire.

But no John.

How certain are you that your Grandmother was born in 1877, where did you get that information from?  Have you looked for her birth certificate?  What is her name?

Sue
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SCOTLAND: Scotland, Morrison, Bonnella, Third,
LINCOLNSHIRE: Bell, King, Emerson, Leesing, Canty, Cutting, Fox,
GLOUCESTERSHIRE: Antill, Onslow, Crook, Jenkins,
LANCASHIRE: Hall, Mayson, Dearden,
WILTSHIRE: Sloper, King, Willis, Stockwell,
ESSEX: Stone, Webb, Smith, Hawkins, Frye,
SOMERSET: Harrison, Jones,
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Re: The Purslows of Acton Scott, Diddlebury and Shiffnal.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 May 05 22:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,

The census of l881 shows that Lily was the grand-daughter aged 3.  Her death certificate shows that she was born 11th September 1877.  Lily (my grandmother) is shown on the l891 as being 13 and again the grand-daughter of Benjamin and Elizabeth.  If you look on the l861 census you will see that the children are Clarisa, Fanny, Mary and Sarah.  There is a John but he was not shown until the l891 census and he was only only a child when Lily was born.  According to my grans marriage cert. her father was John Purslow as I said.  Is it possible that one of the elder daughters married another Purslow ?  I cannot think of any other way that Lily Purslow could be the granddaughter of Benjamin and Elizabeth !!!   Unless and I looking and not seeing !    HELP.
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 May 05 23:43 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I was trying to find the entry on the 1881 to clarrify Lily's place of birth.  the 1891 says Ryton.

I looked in the Sept and Dec quarter for 1877 but there was no Lily Purslow listed.

I'm not sure what to make of it.  Could the father John actually have a different surname and the mother be one of the girls from the 1861.  Maybe Lily was always told her father was John and he died as a soldier and she assumed he was a Purslow as that was the name she used.

Many questions, but no answers I'm affraid.

Sue
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SCOTLAND: Scotland, Morrison, Bonnella, Third,
LINCOLNSHIRE: Bell, King, Emerson, Leesing, Canty, Cutting, Fox,
GLOUCESTERSHIRE: Antill, Onslow, Crook, Jenkins,
LANCASHIRE: Hall, Mayson, Dearden,
WILTSHIRE: Sloper, King, Willis, Stockwell,
ESSEX: Stone, Webb, Smith, Hawkins, Frye,
SOMERSET: Harrison, Jones,
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Re: The Purslows of Acton Scott, Diddlebury and Shiffnal.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 May 05 08:49 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,

You are an angel trying to sort out my ancestry problem.  I thought at one time that Fanny might have been her mother. She disappears off the records just after my grandmother arrives.  My original thought was that Fanny was her mother and she died in childbirth.  I am hopelessly lost on this one.  And I cannot go any further back than Benjamin and Elizabeth.  Cant find when they got married, so cannot trace Elizabeths family back.  Now my grandfather (Lily's husband) I can trace his family back to 1662!!!! 

If you feel like playing Watson to my Sherlock than I would be really grateful.

Beth Jones
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Re: The Purslows of Acton Scott, Diddlebury and Shiffnal.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 May 05 16:11 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Have you tried posting for a lookup on Rootschat for the family in the 1851 census?  It looks like they may be in Eaton as that is where Sarah is born.

I am wondering if there really was a son, John Purslow and he was not with the family group in 1861, he may show in 1851.

I rechecked the indexes from Jan 1877 to Mar 1878, but no Lily Purslow.

If  you do find the family on the 1851, it would hopefully show you the first child born and where.  That would give you a good starting point to find the location and rough timeframe for Benjamin and Elizabeth's marriage.

Free bmd gives one possibility

Benjamin Purslow Mar 1850      Clun  18 69
The Elizabeth on the same page is Elizabeth Lewis. 

Clun
Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Shropshire, but included parts of Montgomeryshire.
Sub-districts : Bishop's Castle; Clun; Lydbury; Norbury.
GRO volumes : XVIII (1837-51); 6a (1852-1930).
Bishop's Castle, Clun, Clunbury, Clungunford, Dinmore, Edgton, Hill End, Hopesay, Hopton Castle, Horderley Hall, Lydbury North, Lydham, Mainstone, More, Mucklewick, Myndtown, Norbury, Old Church Moor, Ratlinghope, Shelve, Snead (1837-84), Wentnor.

I think the 1851 will give you more clues.  If this is indeed the right marriage, I would expect you to find the couple on the 1851 census married maybe with  a child.

Happy hunting

Sue
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SCOTLAND: Scotland, Morrison, Bonnella, Third,
LINCOLNSHIRE: Bell, King, Emerson, Leesing, Canty, Cutting, Fox,
GLOUCESTERSHIRE: Antill, Onslow, Crook, Jenkins,
LANCASHIRE: Hall, Mayson, Dearden,
WILTSHIRE: Sloper, King, Willis, Stockwell,
ESSEX: Stone, Webb, Smith, Hawkins, Frye,
SOMERSET: Harrison, Jones,
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Re: The Purslows of Acton Scott, Diddlebury and Shiffnal.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 May 05 17:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,

Cant thank you enough for your time and effort.  Maybe the answer to the riddle IS in the l851 census. 

Will post a message to see if anybody can help. 

Thanks Watson !!!!!!1

Yours,
Sherlock
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