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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 14 March 06 19:39 UTC (UK) »

Hello!
I am descended from James Burgess Boxall (1815-1882) who I think  - I have been unable to find a record of their marriage and they stated they were unmarried on the 1881census although head and wife -married Margaret Sophia Aston. They had Emily Eliza born 1844, married Joseph Smith ( and /or Mr Dickinson?);Sarah in 1847 who married a Mr Harris, had 4children , and 'ran off to America';Margaret born 1850, married John Samuel Webb; Mary born 1856 married Benjamin Hughes and had two children Gladys and Hugh; and Alfred born who married Annie ? and had 3children Arthur, Harold and Hilda.
James was born in Cranleigh  and lived in Kingston on Thames. I would love to know how he acquired the Burgess bit of his name...I have a miniature of Emily if any of her descendants are interested. I have more info on Gladys and Hugh and their offspring - my line...
Any info about James Burgess Boxall a builder in Kingston gratefully received..
Panjela
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 14 March 06 20:05 UTC (UK) »

Burgess is likely to be a female maiden name (normally it is the mothers, but in my family I have found it to be the grandmothers)

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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 01:55 UTC (UK) »

Hello!
I am descended from James Burgess Boxall (1815-1882) who I think  - I have been unable to find a record of their marriage and they stated they were unmarried on the 1881census although head and wife -married Margaret Sophia Aston. They had Emily Eliza born 1844, married Joseph Smith ( and /or Mr Dickinson?);Sarah in 1847 who married a Mr Harris, had 4children , and 'ran off to America';Margaret born 1850, married John Samuel Webb; Mary born 1856 married Benjamin Hughes and had two children Gladys and Hugh; and Alfred born who married Annie ? and had 3children Arthur, Harold and Hilda.
James was born in Cranleigh  and lived in Kingston on Thames. I would love to know how he acquired the Burgess bit of his name...I have a miniature of Emily if any of her descendants are interested. I have more info on Gladys and Hugh and their offspring - my line...
Any info about James Burgess Boxall a builder in Kingston gratefully received..
Panjela
Hi Panjela,
All the children were registered under the name BURGESS
Emily Eliza BURGESS b. Sep qtr 1844 Kingston 4 196
Sarah Sophia BURGESS b. Jun qtr 1847 Kingston 4 206
Margaret Maria BURGESS b. Mar qtr 1849 Kingston 4 250
Alfred James BURGESS b. Dec qtr 1850 Kingston 4 235
Mary Jane BURGESS b. Dec qtr 1855 Kingston 2a 167?
all the children marriages are registered as BOXALLs with BURGESS as a middle name.

This leads me to believe that either James was actually a BURGESS and changed his name to BOXALL or he did not marry Margaret and her last name is BURGESS and not ASTON as you indicate.
I do not know anything more about James BURGESS BOXALL other than his and Margaret's death's.

Might I suggest you purchase one of the children's birth certificates and check the details.  I've followed the family through the Census' from 1851 where they are listed as BOXALL. 
Please keep me informed about what you find I would love to be in on your discoveries.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 10:30 UTC (UK) »

Dear Ronnie, Margaret was definitely an Aston born! If James was born Burgess there is a birth at Cranleigh of the right date to John and Sarah Burgess on IGI Jan1st 1816. As you probably know, the three James Boxalls born at Cranleigh are 1775, 1783 and 1820 - so very unlikely to be him...
So, why would he have changed his name? Was his mother Sarah a Boxall? How do I go about finding out? Have you also been unable to find a marriage cert for James and Margaret?
What info do you have on the Cranleigh Boxalls?
I think we have been in touch before, when I was doing some preliminary research on my great great grandparents. I have since 'properly' done five other sets of gggpts and will be hitting the Boxalls seriously next. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated.
Panjela

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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 23:34 UTC (UK) »

Dear Ronnie, Margaret was definitely an Aston born! If James was born Burgess there is a birth at Cranleigh of the right date to John and Sarah Burgess on IGI Jan1st 1816. As you probably know, the three James Boxalls born at Cranleigh are 1775, 1783 and 1820 - so very unlikely to be him...
So, why would he have changed his name? Was his mother Sarah a Boxall? How do I go about finding out? Have you also been unable to find a marriage cert for James and Margaret?
What info do you have on the Cranleigh Boxalls?
I think we have been in touch before, when I was doing some preliminary research on my great great grandparents. I have since 'properly' done five other sets of gggpts and will be hitting the Boxalls seriously next. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated.
Panjela
I believe you are correct in that James was baptised James BURGESS jan 1st 1816, I've looked at microfiche and extracted all the BOXALLs and there is no James BOXALL bpt in 1816.  The next move would be to find the marriage of his parents, this does not appear to be in Cranleigh.  Maybe finding his parents in the 1851 Census would throw answer some question only if to answer where were his parents married?

Sorry I don't have any other answers for you at this time.  Please do keep me informed on what you find out.

Thanks
Ronnie
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #35 on: Monday 26 June 06 18:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ronnie

I have just found that I may be descended from Sarah Boxell, born about 1795 in Stockbridge. She married Charles Read, possibly in Stockbridge, and then seems to have gone to Salisbury. I found a SB on IGI born 1793, with girl siblings - parents John and Jane. Do you have any info on this family?

Thank you

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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 21 December 06 14:37 UTC (UK) »

I have a Boxall line starting with:

Edward Boxall b C1796 in Winchester, Hampshire he married a Mary Brixton b C1806. They lived in CAMBERWELL in 1841.

My direct ancestor was his son  Robert b.C1837 m Jane Gardener from Sunderland then Co. Durham, now T & W.#

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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 15 February 07 21:51 UTC (UK) »

I have a Boxall line starting with:
Edward Boxall b C1796 in Winchester, Hampshire he married a Mary Brixton b C1806. They lived in CAMBERWELL in 1841.
My direct ancestor was his son  Robert b.C1837 m Jane Gardener from Sunderland then Co. Durham, now T & W.#
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I have finally received the evidence that you probably already had that confirms that Robert is the s/o Edward and Mary and that Mary's last name was BRIXTON.  But I can not work out your jump to Winchester.  Do you have a marriage for Edward and Mary in Winchester that you could give me the details?  On the 1841 Census Edward states Yes to the question about birth in Surrey, and in 1851 he states he was born in Surrey.  I know this is not definit if, like his son Robert, he has lied about his birth origins.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 27 February 07 15:46 UTC (UK) »

To the best of my knowledge I have the following; Hannah Boxall born ? Mar 1787 and bapt.25Mar 1787 in Tillington to Edward and Jane? Boxall, who married Thomas Puttick 18 Apr 1803 in Tillington. The question marks are in because the micro fiche is not very clear.
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 28 February 07 00:40 UTC (UK) »

To the best of my knowledge I have the following; Hannah Boxall born ? Mar 1787 and bapt.25Mar 1787 in Tillington to Edward and Jane? Boxall, who married Thomas Puttick 18 Apr 1803 in Tillington. The question marks are in because the micro fiche is not very clear.
Regards,
Frenchie.
Hi, I checked my database and I have Hannah b.12 Mar 1787 daughter of Edward BOXALL and Jane GREENFIELD.  But I do not have a marriage for her, at least I had not linked her to the marriage with Thomas Puttick in 1803 but it is a likely match.... there is another marriage between a Hannah BOXALL and Thomas PUTTICK in 1819 in Fernhurst I wonder if there is any connection between the two marriages.  For the second marriage one or both had to have consent of the parents yet they were both of age. 
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 28 February 07 11:12 UTC (UK) »

Hello Ronnie.
N0.2 Tillington P.R: Thomas Puttick,bachelor of this parish and Hannah Boxall spinster of this parish married in this church by Banns 18 Apr 1803. My descendant Sarah Puttick born 1820 in Tillington gives parents as Thomas and Hannah. I will have a further look in Tillington records for any other info. I have no info. on the other marriage.
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 03 March 07 14:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi
I have a Hannah Boxall b abt 1795, Lodsworth, West Sussex, England daughter to Stephen Boxall and Mary Burse.  Do you have any info on Stephen Boxall as I haven't been able to find his parents yet.  Stephen was born around 1753 in Lodsworth.
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 03 March 07 15:26 UTC (UK) »

Hello Sunnysmile, No other info on Boxalls other than what I posted to Ronnie. I see you have SMITHERS in your family. I have a Rosaline Maud PITCHER who married a W.SMITHERS. Rose's parents were Francis and Maud nee MAY from Stone,Kent if you are interested.
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 03 March 07 15:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi
I have a Hannah Boxall b abt 1795, Lodsworth, West Sussex, England daughter to Stephen Boxall and Mary Burse.  Do you have any info on Stephen Boxall as I haven't been able to find his parents yet.  Stephen was born around 1753 in Lodsworth.
Hi Sunnysmile,
The Stephen BOXALL bpt 1753 in Lodsworth I have a burial for him Oct 1st, 1759 Lodsworth. 
The Stephen BOXALL that married Mary BURSE was Baptized 29 May 1757 s/o Edward BOXALL & Ann BAKER.  I have more details on this family.
I would be interested in who Hannah BOXALL married.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Re: BOXALL (and variants), All
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 06:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

My late mother-in-law was Antonia Ivy Boxall;  the family lived in King William's Town, South Africa.  I am not sure of the father's name, but there were three daughters - Antonia Ivy, Doris and Edith.  The only connection to the U.K. I have is a story about a Boxall relative who played the violin at a command performance for Queen Victoria in London;  his violin was a Stradivarius (it turned out to be a fake when we took it to Sothebys!) - this violin was later donated to a museum in East London, South Africa.

I have not looked in to how they came to be in South Africa;  I think they must have migrated sometime during the 1850's or later.  I do know that the father married a lady of German descent, one of the many German settlers who came to this area of South Africa at that time.

Ivy Antonia married Ronald Nettleton Gordon and they had two children, Raymond Garth and Margaret.

Cheers,

Tisy
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