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scrattletrap
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Ann  married James Jewell, can't find marraige
on 1861 census
RG9/3848 118 13
James Jewell Head 27 Married Coalminer Hexham Northumberland
Ann Jewell Wife 25 Married ---------- Durham, Shiney Row
Joseph Jewell Son 2 weeks Single ---------- Seghill, Northumberland
on her son Joseph's baptism in she was recorded as Ann Jewell
between 1864 and 1869, James Jewell died and she remarried William Reay
now I'm rightly stuck to what her maiden name was.
Sharon
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Nick Carver
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Surely if you can get the certificate for the second marriage it will have her father's name on it?
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E Yorks - Carver, Steels, Cross, Maltby, Whiting, Moor, Laybourn
W Yorks - Wilkinson, Kershaw, Rawnsley, Shaw
Norfolk - Carver, Dowson
Cheshire - Berry, Cooper
Lincs - Berry
London/Ireland/Scotland/Lincs - Sullivan
Northumberland/Durham - Nicholson, Cuthbert, Turner, Robertson
Berks - May
Beds - Brownell
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scrattletrap
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Thanks I had never thought about that as on the FreeBMD for William Reay and her marraige she was recorded as Ann Jewell
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Nick Carver
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There may also be a parish register transcript with the father's name on it, although in many cases where the bride was a widow, the father's name was omitted. In civil registration, the information is mandatory I believe (unless she was illegitimate perhaps). Good luck
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E Yorks - Carver, Steels, Cross, Maltby, Whiting, Moor, Laybourn
W Yorks - Wilkinson, Kershaw, Rawnsley, Shaw
Norfolk - Carver, Dowson
Cheshire - Berry, Cooper
Lincs - Berry
London/Ireland/Scotland/Lincs - Sullivan
Northumberland/Durham - Nicholson, Cuthbert, Turner, Robertson
Berks - May
Beds - Brownell
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alcrighton
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Hi Sharon,
One method for finding maiden name's that's worked for me in the past is to go back one census and look for single women with the same christian name, born in the same place and of about the right age.
A search of the 1851 census for Anns born in Shiney Row in 1836 +/- 2 years shows just 4 possible candidates:
Mary Ann COOKE
Ann CRELLIN
Ann RICHARDSON &
Ann SIMPSON
In other cases like this I've already had the marriage reference for the groom and then it's just a question of going through the marriage indexes for the possible surnames for the bride and hopefully finding a match. In your case it's a bit more difficult as you don't yet have a reference for James JEWELL's marriage and FreeBMD coverage is still fairly low for some of the years in which they are likely to have married (1860 in particular) and only shows up a few James JEWELL marriages from the South West of England - unlikely to be yours. Nevertheless, you can still use the same idea but it's a bit more time consuming. I'd start by going through the marriage indexes for 1859 & 1860 and looking for James JEWELL marriages in the North East of England and then trying to match up with the Anns with the surnames above in the same quarter.
It's not a dead cert method for a number of reasons (your Ann could be missing from the 1851 census, Ann's birthplace could be recorded differently in the two cenuses, they may not have married in the North East etc.) but it's worth a try!
Regards,
Al
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scrattletrap
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Thank you I'll give it a try.
Sharon
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CatOne
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Birth of her son? (maiden name should be on the cert.)
Joseph Jewell March 1861 Vol 10b Page 178 Tynemouth Northumberland
Regards
Catherine 
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scrattletrap
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Thanks Catherine,
I got that and it wasn't recorded 
I think I might have to get one of his siblings to see if its there.
Sharon
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habanero
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I was going to suggest Joseph's birth cert as well-it should have had the mother's maiden name.. Ann Jewell (Formerly xxxxxx).
There are no marriages registered in area for james Jewell in right time frame (went back to 1854) so assume the marriage is either registered only under Ann's name (try the names above) or they got married elsewhere.
Good Luck!
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Could they perhaps be cousins? Making her maiden name as well as her married name Jewell?
Anne
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scrattletrap
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I never thought about that Anne 
I'll check that out Al
Thanks
Sharon
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scrattletrap
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Have found out that her maiden name was Mason but this gets me no nearer to her parents.
Sharon
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CatOne
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Did you notice on the 1861 census, that the next door family are Masons of about the right age to be her parents???
Catherine
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