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sharon ann
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francis
« on: Monday 06 June 05 12:25 BST (UK) »

hi,
i am looking for info on thomas francis and son also named thomas born near st magarets hereford they lived in a small cottage called little maurices,
the older thomas was born in 1816 and married to a mary  from turnastone, thomas jr was born in 1859 and he moved to pontypool when he got older,  he later married a elizabeth powell from peterchurch
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Re: francis
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 June 05 12:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Sharon Ann,

You don't say what you are searching for.

Is the 1861 of any use to you? 

RG9/1822
Folio 95 p. 7
St Margaret Hereford

"Little Beavans" Private Home
Thomas Francis, head, 38, Ag Lab, b. St Margaret
Mary, wife, 34, b. Hereford Turnerstone (?)
Thomas, son, 9 mths, b. St Margarets

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Re: francis
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 June 05 13:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Sharon Ann,

You don't say what you are searching for.

Is the 1861 of any use to you? 

RG9/1822
Folio 95 p. 7
St Margaret Hereford

"Little Beavans" Private Home
Thomas Francis, head, 38, Ag Lab, b. St Margaret
Mary, wife, 34, b. Hereford Turnerstone (?)
Thomas, son, 9 mths, b. St Margarets

Tanja  Smiley


thank you this is most useful, i am trying to look for birth certificates because i cant seem to find them in the indexes
in the 1871 census i have got thomas age as 54 though
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Re: francis
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 June 05 13:51 BST (UK) »

Yes, he seems to have lied a little about his age in 1861.
1871 and 1881 have him down as being born ca. 1816 and he could also match the death in Hereford RD 1890 age 75.



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Re: francis
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 June 05 18:28 BST (UK) »

Hello Sharon Ann,

Have found this on the IGI which matches Tanja's information.

11 Feb 1816 - Christening
     Thomas Francis and also Richard Francis
     St. Margaret, Hereford
     Parents - Robert & Sarah Francis

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Re: francis
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 June 05 22:38 BST (UK) »

Hello Sharon Ann,

Have found this on the IGI which matches Tanja's information.

11 Feb 1816 - Christening
     Thomas Francis and also Richard Francis
     St. Margaret, Hereford
     Parents - Robert & Sarah Francis

Best Wishes
Sue


thank you i am trying to find thomas's birth certifiacate also thomas born in 1859-60 Smiley
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Re: francis
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 June 05 23:58 BST (UK) »

Hello there,

Re:  Birth Certificate for Thomas snr.  Civil registration began in 1837, before this you will have to rely on Parish Registers.

Did find this on FreeBMD though -

Birth 1860 - Thomas James Francis
     Volume - 11a     Page - 68
     Quarter -  June     District - Abergavenny

It's the only Thomas Francis listed around the time you specified, so is a distinct possibility!!

By the way there is a Robert Francis listed in St. Margaret in 1861 & 71, but his wife is named Elizabeth.  His age is given as 62 in 1861, and 77 in 1871 - could this be his father ??  I'll leave you to figure that one out.   Wink

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Re: francis
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 June 05 22:14 BST (UK) »

thank you for the info i've been on freebmd, but my eyes must have been closed at the time.
this robert you found might be an uncle Smiley
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