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« on: Monday 06 June 05 19:23 BST (UK) »

Hi

Was given this picture today by my mum, she is the one with the bonnet -- It was just begging to have some colour put in it.  To me the colour balance is just right
What do you think?

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Re: Do you like it?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 June 05 01:23 BST (UK) »

Hi Ken
It looks good to me
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 June 05 12:51 BST (UK) »

Hi Ken

It looks good. I have only tried repairing photos and its amazing what a difference it makes.

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Re: Do you like it?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 June 05 20:55 BST (UK) »

Ken

How did you colour it. Do you do it in layers and if so how do select the area for the layers?

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 June 05 21:21 BST (UK) »

Hi Jane

As I use PSP9 it may be different from Adobe PS

Again it is an easy task to do the more I practice the better the results but getting the colours right is the hard bit.

First thing I do on any picture is greyscale it, repair it then increase colour depth to 16 million, next using the freehand Lasso button draw round the object to colour.

Then in Layers - New adjustment Layer - Colour balance, play around with the colours under adjustment and general. I just have to make sure the Opacity is down below 50 or you get that flouro glow.

My first attempts were terrible, but I am now working with a lot more confidence, I am like yourself new at it, I have only been doing this for about 3 months and just love doing the restoration.

I am sure deadants has a tutorial for Adobe 

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 June 05 22:50 BST (UK) »

Ken
Thanks for the info. This is only my 3rd week, the 1st week I was on leave and had loads of time to play but now I am back at work full time I can only have an hour or so each day.

I asked the question because when I zoomed right in you don't get the awful edges that I am still getting. I have corrected it by reducing the opacity below 65 and using colour rather than normal. For the layers I have gone back to fill layer rather than adjustment layer. I can't decide which is best.

Although our programs are different I am sure the process is similar but the headings may vary slightly. I will continue with Photoshop elements 3 for a while as I am getting to know it better with practice.

I can't work out what to do with gradient layers. Now I have had a play I think it is time that I got an instruction manual. I didn't bother at 1st as it wouldn't have meant anything but now I may just understand what it is saying.

I follow your progress with interest so keep posting and by the weekend I may have finished another 'masterpiece' and will post it for constructive criticism.

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Re: Do you like it?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 June 05 00:49 BST (UK) »

Hi Ken
 What a great photo.  I guess it was taken during WW ll. You have still got some work to do on this one. I tried to add the yellow to the hammer and sickle and found the greyscale was very limited. But I pushed and pulled the curves till it kind of looked yellow. I think it’s the little details that make it look more believable.

Jane you should get a good book to get your teeth into. There is no shortage of them out there.  Also this forum might be of interest to you. http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/forum/
also check this site. http://www.photoshopsupport.com/elements/index.html

It is for Photoshop Elements users and they are asking and getting answers you are asking at the moment. It may be worth a look.

I will be coming and going over the next few days as I have a job on that is a bit of a challenge and I have been concentrating my time on it. So don’t worry if I don’t reply straight away. Hopefully next week things will be back to normal.


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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 June 05 10:28 BST (UK) »

Hi deadants

Yep you are right, I had problems putting some colours into the picture but my idea and thoughts behind this finished picture was. It was a 60 year old picture so the colours would look washed out and slighly over exposed and not crystal clear and sharp.

Grin thats my excuse and I am sticking with it  Grin but still always learning.

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Ken
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Re: Do you like it?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 June 05 16:23 BST (UK) »

Ken

I think the picture looks great.  I am getting increasingly jealous each time I see one of your pictures, but they have pushed me to have a go.  I have only had one go so far - not too good - but I am determined to catch you up - eventually!

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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 June 05 19:29 BST (UK) »

This is my first post since joining recently. I too enjoy colorizing images.
I think the coloring looks good. My initial thought however, was the contrast seems strong for an "aged" look.
Hope this isn't inappropriate, but I adjusted the contrast and added a layer of tan (for the aged color).  My thinking was, it would lose contrast and color, and turn yellowish over time.


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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 June 05 20:19 BST (UK) »

Hi vhansen

Welcome onboard the more the merrier.
Be my guest and play around with the picture and any other picture on the forum, they have been placed here for us to dabble with and learn from.

I can see what you mean about contrast and the tan layer works well. I will add it to my family tree collection and thank you very much

What I have seen is people have the own ideas and perseption of what a black & white picture should look like coloured as they have nothing to compare it with. the questions I have started to ask myself is how was a picture stored "in a frame on display, used as a coffee mat, left in an album and never opened, etc" so each picture would tell a different story in the end from very faint which we have posted here to looking like new.

It is the person working the picture who says that is done "that works for me", I will and have asked the forum does it work, and will always get an honest answer.

Like I said earlier in this posting I have only been doing this for 3 months, but have started to approach each picture with a different line of thought and what I want from it in the end.

Am I right or wrong? am I barking up the wrong tree or just barking mad?  Grin I will let you lot be the judge of that

Regards
Ken
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 June 05 20:25 BST (UK) »

Hi sandie

Upload your picture to the forum so we " by that I mean deadants" Grin can help you if needed.

We all started off with the worse looking picture ever seen, but it does get better and very quickly.

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Ken
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 June 05 21:11 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the welcome!
It's true, we all see things differently and have our own tastes.
I've been coloring and restoring photos for a few years, and I guess I'm set in my ways.  For myself, I reference images from the era that are pristine, and use that as my basis for restoration.  For colorings, I reference fashions and popular colors of the era.  Finally, I try what "I" think might look good.
If you're interested, here is some of my work:
http://www.pbase.com/vhansen/colorings

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 June 05 23:24 BST (UK) »

Welcome Vikki

Just had a look at your link and I am impressed. It looks like we have another expert on board. I hope you don't mind us beginners asking stupid questions I have only been into this for a few weeks and like Ken am trying to become more proficient each day.

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 12 June 05 00:14 BST (UK) »

Ken,

I definitely need help!  I did put the picture on my other posting the other day - I got bored waiting for the photo I originally posted to be returned to me so did the other one and attached that - the trouble is... I can't remember how to add a link to it.  It's attached to 'How do I fix this picture?'

By the way I also posted an apology to you on there.  I thought I had replied when you had a go at my picture, but I hadn't and felt awful.  So apologies for that, it wasn't intentional.

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