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Johnno
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Seeking information on Joseph Elphick, married a Sophia??? , children, Mary Ann, Josiah, Henry, John, George, Charles, James, Eliza, Harriet and Edward all born Dorking, between 1827 and 1843.
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Johnno
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Hello Jane,
Mary Ann 28/02/1827, Josiah 28/12/1828, Henry 28/12/1828, John 05/04/1831, George 16/01/1833, Charles 18/06/1834, James 23/03/1836, Eliza 02/05/1838, Harriet 13/09/1840 and Edward 25/10/1843.
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Johnno
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Jane Masri
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Hi Johnno,
Sorry I couldn't get back to you yesterday but I was having internet problems. This is what I found in the parish records for St. Martins, Dorking, which confirms your information. It looks like your family were the only one's in Dorking at this time. No marriage's I'm afraid as my fiche doesn't cover that.
Mary Ann Elphick, cr. 28/2/1827, daughter of Joseph & Sophia of Mill Lane, Shoemaker.
Henry Elphick, cr. 28/12/1828, son of Joseph & Sophia of Mill Lane, Shoemaker.
Josiah Elphick, cr. 28/12/1828 As above.
John Elphick, cr. 5/4/1831 son of Joseph & Sophia of North Row, shoemaker
George Elphick, cr. 16/1/1833, son of Joseph & Sophia of Ebenezer Cottages, shoemaker.
Charles Elphick, cr. 18/6/1834, son of Joseph & Sophia of Ram Alley, shoemaker.
James Elphick, cr. 23/3/1836, son of Joseph & Sophia of Ram Alley, shoemaker.
Eliza Elphick, cr. 2/5/1838, daughter of Joseph & Sophia of Ram Alley, shoemaker.
Harriet Elphick, cr. 13/9/1840, daughter of Joseph & Sophia of Ram Alley, shoemaker.
EDWARD will not appear on my fiche as his cr, was after 1840.
BAPTISM of Sarah Catherine Elphick, 19/8/1799, daughter of George & Catherine,
BURIAL of William Elphick age 7 of North Row 3/7/1832
BURIAL of Josiah age 6 months of Horsham Road 24/3/1829
From the Capel PR's,
Phebe Elph-ick cr, 3/11/1775 daughter of William.
From The Surrey Super Index, the name ELPHICK appears in the following PR's,
CMB= Christenings, marriages & burials.
Capel CMB 1563-1840
Chaldon CMB 1564-1836
Clandon West CB 1756-1840
Cobham CB 1562-1840
Cranleigh CB 1653-1840 & M 1653-1837 & marriage witnesses 1754-1837
Crowhurst CB 1567-1840 & M 1573-1849
Dorking CB 1538-1840 (I think we've covered that)
Horley CMB 1695-1840
Leatherhead CMB 1813-1840
Lingfield CB 1781-1840
Molesey East C 1668-1840 & B 1681-1840
Surrey non-conformist registers MS5
Puttenham C 1562-1840, M 1562-1753 & B 1562-1852
Walton on Thames CB 1743-1840
Weybridge C 1771-1812 & B 1678-1812.
From Commissary Court of Surrey, Allegations for Marriage Licences 1662-1665, 1674-1770.
7/1/1761,Thomas Elphick of Cranley, abode 4 weeks, butcher, bachelor, 24, & Martha Richbell of Cranley, abode 4 weeks, spinster, 22; at Cranley. John Heath of Guildford, cordwainer, 2nd s. Both sign.
Out of interest I looked on the Sussex marriage Index & BINGO, here's the marriage between Joseph & Sophia. Even better, it's by licence...loads of information,
Archdeaconry of Chichester Marriage Licence, Date: 21 Mar 1823:
Joseph ELPHICK, bach wcof Jn. Maresfield
Sophia CHARMAN, sp Horsham wcof Wm. Sullington
Sullington, West Sussex, Date: 22 Mar 1823:
Joseph ELPHICK, bach Maresfield wcop
Sophia CHARMAN, sp wcop
The name Elphick looks to be a very strong Sussex name, so a good idea would be to look in Sussex if you want to work back from Joseph, at least you know that Joseph's father was JOHN ELPHICK (wcof means with consent of father jn =John)
A good marriage for the parents of Joseph might be this one,
Maresfield, East Sussex, Date: 19 Apr 1794:
John ELPHICK
Ann SAYERS
Hope this is of some help, and was worth waiting for!
Jane
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Johnno
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G'day Jane,
Many, many thanks for the information, the marriage of Joseph and Sophia has solved a problem.
Kind regards.
John
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Johnno
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Hi Jane,
I can't find any info on Joseph or his parents on IGI, only Sophia Charman. Can you help?
Regards
John
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Jane Masri
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Hi John,
Wish I had a magic wand  but here are some suggestions,
1. Going by Joseph's marriage details, he's under 21, so I would estimate he was born about 1803 or before. Looking at the IGI index there are 2 baptism's for children with the parents, John & Ann Elphick, Elizabeth cr. 11/5/1807 & Mary Ann 4/8/1811, at St. Nicholas, Brighton, all around the right time-frame.
2. I would ask for a look-up on the BVRI for the cr. of Joseph & also a look-up on the 1851, Dorking Surrey census & see if he states where he was born. Also ask for 1841 census to see what they are up to, although it wont say where he was born, just if it was in Surrey or not.
Jane
It looks like the family did some major wanderings through Sussex & Surrey 
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Johnno
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Thanks again Jane, I will keep trying.
Cheers
John
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roma
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Hi John
This could help you out
1861 Census
RG9/440 Folio: 9 Page: 1
Royal Oak, Stone Bridge, Dorking
Joseph Elphick abt 1803 Mansfield, Sussex, England Head Victualler
Sophia Elphick abt 1803 Horsham, Sussex, England Wife
Although it says Mansfield on original I should think it is Maresfield.
Roma
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Johnno
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Hi Roma,
Does it show any of his children there?
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Hi John
There are no children shown with them.
Here is their son John, still looking for others.
Which one are you particularly interested in?
RG9/603 Folio: 93 Page: 2
East Street, New Shoreham, Sussex
John Elphick abt 1831 Dorking, Surrey, England Head Cordwainer.
Jane Elphick abt 1835 New Shoreham, Sussex, England Wife
(No Children)
Cordwainer is a shoemaker.
Send me a personal message if you would like copy of images.
Roma
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Johnno
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Hi Roma,
Children Mary Ann, born 1827, Henry born 1828, George, born 1833, Charles born 1834, James, born 1836, Eliza, born 1838, Harriet born, 1840 and Edward (my g-g-g-father)born 1843, all in Dorking.
Regards
John
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roma
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Hi John
Proving hard to find in 1861. Here is your Edward in 1871.
RG10/1073 Folio: 57 Page: 35
19 Mill Fields Cottages, Brighton
Edward Elphick abt 1844 Dorking, Surrey, England Head Bootmaker
Harriett Elphick abt 1843 Lewes, Sussex, England Wife
Edward Elphick abt 1864 Brighton, Sussex, England Son
Frances Elphick abt 1866 Brighton, Sussex, England Daughter
Elizabeth Elphick abt 1870 Brighton, Sussex, England Daughter
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Johnno
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Many thanks Roma,
John
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