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Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« on: Tuesday 07 June 05 03:19 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I am desperately trying to find any trace of the following family shown in the 1841 census:

HO107/142 Folio 38 Page 20
Long Rock
Penwith Cornwall

   
UREN John 45 Yes Farmer
UREN Alice 35  Y      
UREN Elizabeth 15 Y      
UREN Mary 10 Y        
UREN Ann 7  Y      
UREN Grace 4 Y      
UREN James 2 Y

Daughter Mary (Jane) married John JENKIN in Madron 07.05.1855 and they arrived in Sydney,  Australia as assisted immigrants aboard the "Cressy" on 12 January 1856. On the shipping records they indicate that Mary Jane already had 2 sisters living in Melbourne at this time. No amount of imaginative manipulation of the Victorian Pioneer Index has revealed these ladies to date:(

Mary Jane and John JENKIN had 2 children, Rebecca Ann and Alice in Sydney NSW in 1856 and 1857 respectively and then twin girls down in Ballarat, Victoria (sadly, both of whom died shortly after birth) in 1859 and then they promptly disappeared.. or at least they have for me.

Alice, the only child to survive to adulthood was found residing in Darlinghurst, NSW in 1895 when she finally married.  Her mother's name was recorded as "Wren" on the certificate.

I would dearly love to find more on Mary Jane and her sisters, so can anyone place my Uren family?

Smiley Lyn in NSW

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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 June 05 15:24 BST (UK) »

hi lyn
i found this site last week looking for borlase,
 a bit of  info on uren  on there for you,
http://www.hattam.co.uk/familytree/indilist.php?alpha=U&surname_sublist=yes&surname=Uren


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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 June 05 00:24 BST (UK) »

Thanks Ian,

I'll keep this site in mind. I don't think they are related directly to my Uren family.... but you just never know.....

Smiley Lyn in NSW 
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 June 05 01:42 BST (UK) »

ps
forgot to say my brother married a uren in the 1980 (uk)
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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 June 05 15:00 BST (UK) »

Hi Lyn

I searched Australia for about 2 years for one of my immigrant families and eventually found them back in England on the 1891/1901 Census - I eventually found deaths for 2 of their children on FreeBDM - so if you can't find deaths in Australia and haven't checked in England, could be worth a look. Mine returned to the area of their paternal relatives, so it is worth checking  where both sides of the family came from.

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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 June 05 06:13 BST (UK) »

Thanks Trish,

I had entertained that thought... I had thought that perhaps the sisters had already married by the time Mary Jane and John JENKIN arrived here in Australia in 1856. Maybe even arriving here in Australia under their married names.

I have actually found one that might fit:

Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888

Surname: KENDALL
Given Names: Eliza
Event: D
Spouse Surname/Father: Uren Thos
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice FRANCIS
Age: 59
Sex:
Birth Place:
Death Place: SHURST
Year: 1885
Reg Number: 10337
Denomination:
Parish:
Fiche:

Given that my Elizabeth's parents were John UREN and Alice Thomas.... and knowing how names get changed around on death certificates, it is a strong possibility that she is my Mary Jane's sister.

I have also checked on the Uren family who were left behind in Cornwall throughout the various censuses and have found just Alice, the mother, living alone and widowed at 12 Tyringham Place, Uny Lelant.

I guess I just have to bide my time and chip away where I can.

Smiley Lyn
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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 00:47 BST (UK) »

That does look like a possibility. Apologies if you already know the following -
For $17 you can load the image down online - you could then check if the names in the index have been mistranscribed and it should give you the husband, children & time in Australia.
Follow the BDM links at http://www.dvc.vic.gov.au/bdm.htm

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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 August 05 09:18 BST (UK) »

Hi
Just looking through my Uren family who were in Victoria. I don't have much (it is a side branch) except that Albert Francis Uren married Jane Turner in Victoria. Albert's Father was Edward Uren from Cornwell although I don't know where. His mother was Caroline Louisa Goyne (from Cornwell) and her parents were Francis Goyne and Susan Mills.
If any of this sounds like it might have a connection let me know
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 August 05 10:32 BST (UK) »

Hi Christy,

No Edwards in the family that I know of Sad Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get any further with my Uren family tree.

Smiley Lyn
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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 August 05 14:10 BST (UK) »

hi all
i found this site the other day
http://genforum.genealogy.com/uren/
dont no if the info is any help to you.
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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 14 August 05 04:17 BST (UK) »

Thanks!

Warmest wishes,
Smiley Lyn
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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 21 January 06 01:39 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lyn   Don't know if this is of any help but I have Sarah Ann Uren ( Uron ) marr Edward Batten  23 July 1871 in Cornwall.  Sarah was b  1851  d  1929 Bendigo, Aust.
Her parents were either Thomas  and Elizabeth  or  Nicholas and Grace  the latter being more likely as she had children called Lillian Grace and Frederick Nicholas just 2 of 10 children.  Maybe you have found some of these names.
   Good hunting   Sani
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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 21 January 06 17:42 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lyn,
If you want earlier info. on the area your Urens came from try,
http://west-penwith.org.uk
Plenty of info there.
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 22 January 06 01:28 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Roy!

Still battling to find anything on them. The Bendigo lead failed to bear fruit...

Smiley Lyn
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Re: Uren family: Cornwall to Australia
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 22 January 06 13:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lyn,
Another source might be
The Cornish Association of Victoria.
If you would like to give me some details of the family in Cornwall I will look to see what I can come up with.
You can reach me at
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