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Isabella Watson Todd
« on: Friday 09 July 04 12:19 BST (UK) »

My great grandmother Isabella Watson Todd, died 23 March 1966 at Peel Hospital Galashiels. She was born about 1883 and married William Sandilands 1 June 1906 in the District of Carnworth. Her parents are given as William and Mary Anne todd. ANy news would be appreciated.
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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 July 04 16:39 BST (UK) »

Hi Stuchil.
This is from the IGI, is it your entry?  Regards, Frances

Isabella Watson Todd 
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Event(s):
 Birth:  About 1882   , , Scotland
 
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 Death:  About 1960   , , Scotland
 
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Parents:
  Father:  William Todd
  Mother:  Mary Ann Greenshields Rodger     
 

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 Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. 
     

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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 July 04 19:19 BST (UK) »

Thanks Could well be the family, now i need to find some more concrete proof and try to establish links

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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 September 06 15:11 BST (UK) »

a search on scotlands people found an entry at Ravenstruther Carstairs. for Isabella of these parents on November 27 1882.

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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 September 06 15:24 BST (UK) »

perhaps someone could help me with deciphering the parent's place of marriage. in the attached file.

I think it is Wolfcroks Rows, parish of Douglas, Lanark, but ...Huh

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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 September 06 16:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Stuart

If you go to Old Maps at www.old-maps.co.uk and through the Gazetteer go to Lanark and then the alpha listing. Then click on Douglas Water on the list and there is Wolf Crooks (spelt in two words) at the bottom left (if you click on the enlarged view it comes up even better).

Alternatively, use these co-ordinates on the top left hand side  287500,636500 and then click on co-ordinate/search.

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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 September 06 17:03 BST (UK) »

Wolfcrooks is still there today and Old Maps shows what seems to be a row of houses/cottages. Go to www.streetmap.co.uk, choose GB Place, and enter Douglas Water and then, under the list of places, choose Douglas Water, South Lanarkshire (Town). Click 'Search' and you'll see Wolfcrooks on the left.

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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 October 06 02:34 BST (UK) »

Hi there

From the certificate of Isabella Watson TODD birth 1882 in Carstairs
Father: William TODD Ploughman
Mother: Mary Ann Greenshields TODD, MS RODGER
Married 18 Jun 1875 Douglas LNK

This looks like the parents in 1881:

1881: Lanark Scotland
Address: Bankhead
VOL: 648   ED:15, Pg8
Head: William TODD 25, Ploughman, b Carstairs LNK
Wife: Mary Ann TODD 25  , b Lesmahagow, LNK
Dau: Jane G TODD 4 , b Douglas LNK
Dau: Margaret L TODD 2, b Douglas LNK
Visitor: Elizabeth C RODGER 18, unm, Servant Domestic, b Douglas LNK

YOB:
for William and Mary Ann as approx 1856



This looks like Mary Ann's parents and siblings:

IGI: all except Hugh are extracted entries
Father: James RODGER
Mother: Jane GREENSHIELDS
ISSUE:
Hugh RODGER b 1854 Dalserf, died 1882 Scotland
Mary Ann Greenshields RODGER b 13 Aug 1855 Lesmahagow LNK   (lucky  Grin 1855!!)
James RODGERS b 26 Jul 1857 Douglas LNK
Catherine Willie ROGER b 7 Jun 1860, Wiston And Roberton LNK
Elizabeth Crawford ROGER b 17 Apr 1862 Douglas LNK
Thomas Greenshields Thomson ROGERS b 6 Mar 1864, Maybole AYR
Agnes Clarkson Greenshields ROGER b 8 Jan 1866 Douglas LNK
James Crawford RODGER b 30 Mar 1868 Douglas LNK
John Greenshields ROGER b 12 Mar 1870 Douglas LNK
William RODGER b 22 Dec 1873 Douglas LNK


And Mary Ann's parents and younger siblings in 1881:

1881: Lanark Scotland
ADDRESS: Kirkgate
VOL:  641    ED 5    Pg 22
Head: James RODGER 55, Labourer, b Douglas LNK
Wife: Jane RODGER 50, b Douglas LNK
Son: Thomas RODGER 17, Coal Miner, b Maybole AYR
Son: James RODGER 12, Stone Breaker, b Douglas LNK
Son: John RODGER 11, Scholar, b Douglas LNK
Son: William RODGER 7, Scholar, b Douglas LNK


Can't get a lead on William TODD b abt 1856 Carstairs, though  Sad

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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 October 06 03:11 BST (UK) »

But this looks to be James RODGER - a submitted IGI Record:

James RODGER
Born about 1824 Douglas LNK
Died 2 April 1891, Douglas LNK
Parents:  Hugh RODGER and Elizabeth CRAWFORD

and this looks like Mary Ann's brother Hugh RODGER in 1881, the one IGI says died 1882 - so expect he would be named after James' father:

1881:Douglas, Lanark
VOl: 641    ED 4    Pg8
ADDRESS: Curries Close

Head: Hugh RODGER 27, Gen'l Labr, b Dalserf LNK
Wife: Jane RODGER 29, b Broughton Peeble
Son: James C RODGER 5, b Douglas LNK
Dau: Jane G G RODGER 1, b Douglas LNK

Looks like good naming patterns on this side of the family!

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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #9 on: Monday 23 October 06 11:47 BST (UK) »

From the marriage record of William Todd I know that his parents were James Todd and Elisabeth Johnstone
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Re: Isabella Watson Todd
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 October 06 20:24 BST (UK) »

Hi

I assume the same marriage certificate confirmed Mary Ann Greenshields RODGERS' parents as the ones found above???

From the same 1875 certificate:
Did it mention if either parent James TODD or Elizabeth JOHNSTONE were deceased?
What was James' occupation, if mentioned?
Did William's age at marriage agree with the age of the 1881 Census?
What are the names of the witness' to the marriage?

If William's birth  was registered from 1855 onward (ie not in 1854 back, before. start of Civil Registration) then:
Scotlands People: Free Index search of BIRTHS:
Wil*  TODD reg.  Lanark 1855 to 1857 = 7, none of them in Carstairs, 3 in 1855,  3 in 1856 and 1 in 1857.
Wil*  TOD  reg. Lanark 1855 to 1857 = 1, and he was reg. in  Carstairs and in 1855.

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