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Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« on: Saturday 21 May 05 20:38 BST (UK) »

Hi,
my family seem to have numerous spelling of their name, but i have them in South Shore, Gateshead, Durham in 1881. They ended up in Wallsend, Northumberland.
I'm having trouble tracing them further back. John, was born in Ireland abt. 1827, his wife born in Ireland 1833-1836. I don't know if they married in Ireland or England. Children are Catherine (1855), John (1858), Annie (1859), Margaret (1861)
Any links or clues would be gratefully appreciated.
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CHARBONNIER - Jersey, Bristol, Devon
CARTWRIGHT - Birmingham
TEARNEY/TIERNEY - Gateshead, Northumberland
CLAVEY - Somerset, Bristol
BAILLIE - Caithness, Sutherland
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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 May 05 20:45 BST (UK) »

toni
Tieney family of Wallsend are conected to mine in some  way I think to my grandfather John Rafferty I will hunt the marraige cert out and find out which one was the witness

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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 May 05 20:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Audrey,
I've spoken to you before about this lot, I think
They're really baffling me, it's the Irish thing - all it says on census is "born in Ireland"
not alot of help, really!
eagerly waiting any info you have......
Toni
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MORGAN - Bristol, London, Northumberland
CHARBONNIER - Jersey, Bristol, Devon
CARTWRIGHT - Birmingham
TEARNEY/TIERNEY - Gateshead, Northumberland
CLAVEY - Somerset, Bristol
BAILLIE - Caithness, Sutherland
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 May 05 21:02 BST (UK) »

Toni
found it
John thomas Rafferty married Elizbeth Chambers  at St Marys catholic Church newcastle  1905
the witness was Sarah Ann Tierney
my G  grandfather James Rafferty and his wife Sarah nee Shaw came from Ireland  and I remember  hearing the name Tierney when I was a kid i lived  Wallsend untill 1985
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RENDER/FRANCES/ Mcbeth/Cooke.Northumberland
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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 May 05 21:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Audrey
As yet I haven't found a Sarah Ann Tierney in my tree, but it's taking me ages as the surname seems to change all the time! I'll keep looking and keep you updated.
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MORGAN - Bristol, London, Northumberland
CHARBONNIER - Jersey, Bristol, Devon
CARTWRIGHT - Birmingham
TEARNEY/TIERNEY - Gateshead, Northumberland
CLAVEY - Somerset, Bristol
BAILLIE - Caithness, Sutherland
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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 May 05 20:18 BST (UK) »

I have spent some time trying to find them in 1881 and failed!   Can you quote the exact reference?  You do not give his wife's name nor places of birth for the children.  All these facts help to trace them in earlier census records.   What was his occupation?   Every bit of information helps.
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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 May 05 18:46 BST (UK) »

Hi Andrea,
sorry, I realize I didn't give enough info - in 1881 the family are in South Shore, Gateshead ref. RG11/5038 folio 76 page 9. Catherine(born. Ireland 1836) is a widower and head of the household. All the children were born in Gateshead.
I think I might have traced the family in 1871 (RG10/5057 folio 9 page 11) although their name is stated as Ternan, not Tearney.

6 Blackwall, Gateshead

John. 44. head. laborer in cement works. Ireland
Catherine. 38. wife. Ireland
John. 14. son. laborer in cement works. Gateshead
Annie. 12. daughter. Gateshead
Margaret. 10. daughter. Gateshead
James. 7. son. scholar. Gateshead
Ellen. 5. daughter. Gateshead
Rosina. 2. daughter. Gateshead

I still can't find them in 1861. Hope this extra info might help.
Thanks,
Toni
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MORGAN - Bristol, London, Northumberland
CHARBONNIER - Jersey, Bristol, Devon
CARTWRIGHT - Birmingham
TEARNEY/TIERNEY - Gateshead, Northumberland
CLAVEY - Somerset, Bristol
BAILLIE - Caithness, Sutherland
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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 May 05 21:59 BST (UK) »


Irish-born James Gallagher and Mary McCorder married in All Saints, Newcastle on 19 Nov 1820 ( Although Roman Catholics they married in the Church of England, in accordance with the law of the day, but baptised their six children in Catholic Churches, St Andrew's and St Mary's.)

Their first child, Margaret, was born 12 Aug 1822.

In 1842 Margaret Gallagher had dtr called Mary Tierney.

On 1 May 1847, living at Benwell High Cross, she married John Tierney, son of Peter and Catherine Tierney, both of County Cavan. Witnesses were James McKenny of Lower Friar St, N/C, and Mary Gallagher.

On 13 July James Tierney was born, godparents were James O'Neill and Roseanne Gallagher, Margaret's younger sister.

On 5 Oct 1849 she had Margaret Tierney.

By Census 1851 Margaret is a 28 yr old widow with James and two dtrs, living with her parents and her siblings in Blyth.

By Census 1861 , Margaret Tierney , 38 , and James 13, are living with her unmarried brother Donkin/Dunkin/Duncan and her widowed mother, at 8 Cross Row, New Hartley Colliery. Her dtr Mary Tierney is living next door at No 9, with Duncan and Margaret's brother, John Gallagher.

On 17 Jan 1862, John and Duncan Gallagher and James Tierney, who was "known-as" Gallagher were three of the 204 men and boys who lost their lives in the New Hartley Pit diasater. The three of them, like most of the others, died from suffocation.

The dead are listed, together with ages, on a monument in Earsdon Parish Churchyard cemetery.

( These Gallaghers were not "mine" )

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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 May 05 09:44 BST (UK) »

I can't find them in 1861 either.  Sorry
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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 May 05 11:15 BST (UK) »

oh well, on with the search.....
thanks for looking
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CHARBONNIER - Jersey, Bristol, Devon
CARTWRIGHT - Birmingham
TEARNEY/TIERNEY - Gateshead, Northumberland
CLAVEY - Somerset, Bristol
BAILLIE - Caithness, Sutherland
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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 20:16 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I also have several variations of Tierney.

Tierney, Tiernay, Tiernan, Tearnan, Turney and even Turner in the 1881 Census.

My Great Grandfather came to Sunderland about 1868, can find him in 1871 but not 1861.

Even on the parish records of St Patricks Church in Sunderland, there are variations of the name on the same time.


I wish you luck finding them

Cheryl (Tierney originally from Wallsend)
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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 November 07 18:33 GMT (UK) »

John Ternan married Catherine Flynn in Newcastle 1849. I think St Andrews RC might be favourite. Apart from St Patrick's, Felling, Gateshead did not have a catholic church with a licence to perform marriages then, assuming they were catholic of course.

(Mc)Ternan (Mac Tighearnáin) and (O)Tierney (Ó Tighearnaigh) were easily confused because they are both derived from the Irish word Tighearna meaning lord.

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 November 07 21:18 GMT (UK) »

 3. Roseanna Tierney - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 JUN 1869 St Joseph'S, Gateshead, Durham, England

4. Thomas Andreas Tierney - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 NOV 1873 St Joseph'S, Gateshead, Durham, England

5. Jacobus Tierney - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 SEP 1863 St Joseph'S, Gateshead, Durham, England

The above were all children of John Tierney and Catherine Flynn.

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Re: Tierney/Tearney/Ternan
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 24 November 07 14:36 GMT (UK) »

Catherine Turnan
     
Event(s):
Birth:  29 AUG 1855   

Christening:  16 SEP 1855   St Mary, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
   
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  Father:  John Turnan 
  Mother:  Catherine Flynn     
     






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