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Procters 1851 census
« on: Thursday 09 June 05 15:12 BST (UK) »

Hi. i believe that my g-g-g-g-grandfather Adam Procter married once before he married my g-g-g-g-grandmother mary Billinge and had other children. He married Mary in 1838, so I was wondering if there was anyone who would be willing to look up them on the 1851 census for me, and possibly reveal any children he had during his first marriage?

Their details would be as follows:

Adam Procter b. abt. 1795 in Staffs
Mary Procter b. abt. 1813 in Longor Staffs
Mary Procter b. abt 1840 in Staffs
Ann Procter b. abt. 1846 Macclesfield
Martha Procter b. abt. 1859 Macclesfield

Thanks!
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Re: Procters 1851 census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 June 05 17:01 BST (UK) »

Hi
    If they are in Cheshire I should be able to find them.
    Can you please give address and all details from 1861 census also do you have a place and date of death for Adam.

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Re: Procters 1851 census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 June 05 18:32 BST (UK) »

I have Adam's death certificate. He died on the 5th of January 1881 in 6 Barber St, macclesfield. He worked as a labourer. I apologise, but I did find an entry on the 1861 censys through ancestry.co.uk, but now can only find the 1871 census entry, in which he still lived in 6 Barber Street. I know that his daughter Rachael was born in 1852 in Lunt Hill, Macclesfield  so it is possible that they lived there at the time of the 1851 census. I have continued looking on ancestry.co.uk, and I still cannot find the 1861 census. It was obviously only the 1871 entry on there.
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 June 05 16:24 BST (UK) »

Hi
     The Proctor family are indexed in Ancestry under the name Prester !
Ancestry transcribers sure do keep you on your toes.

1861 RG9-2579-F 89  Lunt Hill (St Peters Parish) East Macclesfield

Adam Proctor head 66 lab Longnor Staffs
Mary              wife 48 house keeper Longnor
Mary              daug 20 silk winder Gold Ditch Moss Derbyshire ?
Ann                       14 ~                Macclesfield
Martha                   11
Rachel                    8
Charlotte               5
Elizabeth    g/daug 3

1851 HO107-2159-F 436  Lunt Hill Macclesfield

Adam Proctor Head 55 ag lab Staffs
Mary              wife 38                ~
Elizabeth       daug 13              ~
Mary                       11              ~
Ann                         5              Sutton Macc
Martha                    2               ~         ~

I noticed on the Cheshire BMD website that there was a birth of an Adam Proctor in Sutton 1845 and a death for the same 1846, wondered if he is one of yours ?

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Re: Procters 1851 census
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 June 05 19:59 BST (UK) »

That's great. The Elizabeth on the 1851 census must either be from his first marriage, but I think she's probably from his second marriage, as I just received the marriage certificate for Mary and Adam, and they got married in 1838. The granddaughter - she came up on the 1871 census as well, and I still haven't figured out who she belongs to! Any recommendations as to how I could find that out?

Prester huh? Weird! How did you find out that it was under that? Because if that has happened once, it has me wondering if other 1861 census entries for individuals haven't come up for similar reasons.

Yes, the Adam you saw on the Cheshire BMD is one of mine. I got his death certificate yesterday, which confirmed it. It's really sad how bad the infant mortality rate was in the 1800s. It's one of the slightly depressing things about doing the research sometimes.
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Re: Procters 1851 census
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 June 05 12:06 BST (UK) »

Hi
   
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Prester huh? Weird! How did you find out that it was under that? Because if that has happened once, it has me wondering if other 1861 census entries for individuals haven't come up for similar reasons.

    I have my own copy of the Cheshire 1861 it isn't indexed but being an ex Macclesfield lad once I found the Adams in 51 it didn't take long to find them in 61, it does help when you know the area, I then used the piece and folio number on Ancestry and it came up with Prester.

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The granddaughter - she came up on the 1871 census as well, and I still haven't figured out who she belongs to! Any recommendations as to how I could find that out?


  Only a birth certificate, I would hazard a guess at either Elizabeth or Mary the http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ shows 3 births for an Elizabeth Proctor around 1858, two of which were in East Macclesfield I would print of and send both E.Macc applications in to Macclesfield reg office with a check for just 1 and a note saying you just want the one that has a Mary or Elizabeth Proctor as mother, it is perfectly acceptable to do this.

good luck

peterbennett
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Cheshire Wills database http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/recordoffice/wills/Search.htm
Cheshire family history society  www.fhsc.org.uk/
Cheshire Records Office http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.tm

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Re: Procters 1851 census
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 June 05 16:03 BST (UK) »

Thanks! I'll do that.
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