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1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« on: Friday 10 June 05 06:00 BST (UK) »

Please assist - with ANY and ALL Bassano families
in the Derbyshire Census 1841

Most appreciated


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Re: 1841 - 51 - 61 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 June 05 06:01 BST (UK) »

any and ALL Bassano families please


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Re: 1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 June 05 19:43 BST (UK) »

Hello Gaye,

Here are all the Bassano's from the 1851 Name Index -

Thomas - 50
Ann - 51                (2142-194-11)
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Anthony - 84
John - 57
Esther - 59            (2142-140-164)
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Christopher - 24     (2142-569-169)
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Francis - 33
Mary - 35
Harriett - 13
George H - 10
Edward S - 6
John T - 5
Elizabeth - 2          (2142-317-96)
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Elizabeth J - 20      (2142-447-108)
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George - 44
Jane - 45
Juliah - 13
Thomas - 10           (2143-803-43)
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I will try and find them all in 1842 but there is no name index so will have to search through the areas covered by "2142" and "2143" (above).  Will get back to you when I have something to report.    Cheesy

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Re: 1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 June 05 06:21 BST (UK) »

Thanks Sue .. very much appreciate your good work.

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GAYE - NZ
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Re: 1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 June 05 06:48 BST (UK) »

i go to the Derby Local Studies Library every Saturday and have Acess to the 1851 images, so if ther is any in the index you would like further info on , let me know
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Re: 1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 June 05 07:26 BST (UK) »

WOWIE ... how wonderful!

My family tree has plenty of BASSANO surnames - and
I'd simply love anything you can spot on this family.
They are tightly knit - in that 4 musician brothers were
brought to the Royal Court by Henry VIII in 1530's and
I have the pedigree covering them all - just a little sparse
when it gets to the 1700-1800's with offshoorts..so very
much appreciate any information you can glean.

Best wishes
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Re: 1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 June 05 08:02 BST (UK) »

Leaving in 30 mins for Library, so will see what i can find, post results later
Gary
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Re: 1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 June 05 08:12 BST (UK) »

love ya Gary Kiss
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Re: 1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 June 05 18:41 BST (UK) »

here are the Bassano, i found in the 1851 census

Piece 2142: Folio 194: Page 4: Schedule 11: Address: 36 Willow Row.
Head: Thomas Bassano, 50, Frame Work Knitter, Derbyshire, Derby, married.
Wife: Ann Bassano, 51, Derbyshire, Derby, married.

Piece 3142: Folio 569: Page 47: Schedule 169: Address: 31 Iron Gate.
Head: Richard Thompson, 30, Draper employing 4 Men + 3 Apprentices, Derby,single.
Assistant: Christopher Bassano, 29, Draper's Assistant, Derbyshire, Derby, single.
household contains unrelated, 3 Assistants and 3 Appretices.

Piece: 2142: Folio: 447: Page 32: Schedule 108; Address: 25 St Marys Gate.
Head: John J Swanwick, 59, Retired Lawyer, Derbyshire, Derby, widow.
Daughter of sister in Law: Elizabeth Bassano, 20, Spinster, Derbyshire, Derby, single.
Visitor: Margaret Lacey, 31, Farmers Daughter, Derbyshire, Morley, single.
Servant: Mary Shaw, 16, House servant, Derbyshire, Rodsley.
Servant: Ann Hardwick, 16, House Servant, Derbyshire Mackworth.
Lodger: John Woodford, 64, Attorney + Soliceter, Leicestershire, Loughborugh, Widow.

Piece 2142: Folio 317: Page 28: Schedule 96: Address: 38 William Street.
Head: Francis Bassano, 33, Painter, Derbyshire, Derby, married.
Wife: Mary Bassano, 35, Derbyshire Belper, married.
Daughter: Harriet Bassano, 13, Warping for Silk Weaver, Derbyshire, Derby.
Son: George  H Bassano, 10, Scholar, Derbyshire, Derby.
Son: Edward S Bassano: 6, Scholar, Derbyshire, Derby.
Son: John H Bassano, 5, Scholar, Derbyshire, Derby.
Daughter: Elizabeth Bassano, 2, Derbyshire, Derby.

Piece: 2142: Folio 140: Page 44: Schedule 164: Address: 4 Darley Lane.
Head: John Bassano, 57, Frame Work Knitter & Silk Weaver, Derbyshire, Ashbourne, married.
Wife: Esther Bassano, 59, Shop Keeper, Middlesex, London, married.
Father, Anthony Bassano, 84, Surveyors Chain Maker, Worcestershire, ***ton, widow.
Sister in Law, Marey A Tyrell, 60, Seamstress, Middlesex, London, single.

the Piece number 2143, i will get this next time,

out of interest

Whites 1857 Directory of Derbyshire, Lists.
Christopher Bassano, Ale And Porter Agent, 25 St Marys Gate.
(the Address that Elizabeth Bassano, 20, was at ot 1851 census).

the 1903 Directory of Derby & District, Lists.
Henry Bassano & Sons, Manufacturing Electricians, 155 Bridge Street.
J. T Bassano & Son, Painter & Decorators, 56 St Helens Street.
Francis William Bassano, Dispenser, The Infirmary, 13 Harrington Street.
(Note: this would be a Chemist at the Hospital).

the 1916 Directory of Derby & District, Lists.
Mrs Emily Bassano, 45 Empress Road.
Francis Bassano, Electrician, 42 Otter Street.
Henry Bassano, "Lord Raglan Inn", 38 Clover Street.
Thomas Arthur Bassano, Painter & Decorator, 56 St Helens Street.


there is also in the indexs for Bassano various Births Marriages Deaths 1700-1900, also Deeds and wills 1700-1800, obitures, Articles in Magazines and Books, i.e Baasano a brief history, in Promenent Derbyshire Families by Maxwell Craven and 4 Brother Musicians from the King of Italys Court, a family History.

all very interesting
Gary
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Re: 1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 June 05 20:39 BST (UK) »

Hello again Gaye,

     Sterling work Gary!!!

Have finished trawling through the Derby City census returns for 1841 and here's what I've found -

1841

34, Willow rd, St Alkmund, Derby

Thomas Bassano   40   Framework Knitter   born in county - yes
Ann Bassano        40                                                     yes

                                           (HO107/ 199/ 2/ 5)
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4, Darley Lane, St. Alkmund, Derby

John Bassano     47     Shopkeeper          yes
Esther Bassano  54                                no

                                          (HO107/ 199/ 4/ 25)
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19, Nottingham Rd, St. Alkmund, Derby

Mark? Bassano       74    Grocer             No
Elizabeth Bassano   70                         yes
Marth Bassano       27    Dressmaker      yes

                                         (HO107/ 199/ 5/ 10)
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Upper Brook St, St. Alkmund, Derby

Francis Bassano     23    Housepainter     yes
Mary Bassano        25                           yes
Harriett Bassano     4                            yes
George Bassano     6m                          yes

                                        (HO107/ 199/ 1/ 11)
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The family George, Jane, Juliah & Thomas from reg district 2143 (above) I have located in St. Werburgh but their surname is "Bassendine", and they are also listed under this surname in 1861.  This leads me to presume that their name has been mis-transcribed on the 1851 name index CD.   Undecided

Regards
Sue    Smiley
 

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Re: 1851 Derby Lookup - Bassano families
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 June 05 20:53 BST (UK) »

Gary and Sue  Kiss
absolutely fantastic - I am indebted to you!

Makes my tree so much fuller with this information
and you get more sideline detail from Census (with
relatives visiting etc) - I am so appreciative.

The BASSANO name is so often erroneously transcribed
in the latter Census - I needed to think beyond the square
to find them - variously, Bassane, Bossana, Bassans, Bassens,
hence I liked to read the actual digitals for myself...

Grin  many many thanks!

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 June 05 20:58 BST (UK) »

Hi Bagpuss
                i thing you are right on the Bassendean on the 1841 census, i could only find that name in the 2143 piece on the 1851, and came across it much later on too
Gary
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