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Rachel Bowen
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To Iolanthe,
I don't look at this site very often, so haven't replied.
I am not related to either of the families mentioned. We bought the house from an English couple who had bought Ty Isaf from the widower of the sister of a neighbour/family, who much to the disgust of the rest of the family had 'sold it out of the family' which in their eyes he had no right to do.
We lived there for 5 years until 1984 when we moved to France to work.
The house was built in 1642, as a one story dwelling, probably a Ty Hir (Long House) and I think a house where if you had the chimney built with smoke coming out of it by sunrise, and threw stones toutwards from this chimney in E, W, N. S directions, you could claim this amount of land. The shape of the garden suggests this. The roof had been raised in the 19th century and one can see the line where the addition was made. The people we bought the house from had added an extension, unfortunately faced with slate crazy paving. We added a porch and toilet/utility room, but we used local stone and bought slate for the floors and windowsills from the quarries in Bethesda. We were assured that the slate would last 200 years, and I said that that wouldn't do as the slate we already had was already 400 years old. The slate floors in the original part of the house were about a metre by 75 cms and at least 2.5 cms thick. They were very lovely.
We also opened up the original Inglenook fireplace, having removed 3 subsequent grates, including a black-lead 19th cent one, which had 2 huge slate slabs on either side of the accompanying chimney, built inside the original one, which as the 'new' chimney didn't go very far up, had about 200 years worth of soot on them, which went all over the house, through the ceiling, through soaked blankets put up all round the origial farm 'kitchen' to prevent this happening. We found a bread oven and a tinder alcove, which we preserved.
We also found another newer bread oven behind a false wall in the tiny 'newer' kitchen, which we also preserved complete with its cast iron door. We found old openings, and re-opened one out of this tiny kitchen to go out to the garden fitting a French Window.
Although we wanted to come to France, we would have liked to have been able to keep the house as well, but finances were not available for this.
I have not been able to locate my photographs of the house, but will try to do so and either post them here, or if you provide me with your e-mail I'll send them directly.
You are not Janet Hazell, by any chance?
It is so long since I looked at this site, that I have forgotten the details.
Sincerely,
Rachel Bowen
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Rachel Bowen
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Hello Polidor,
Tai Teg, is a farm and a row of what used to be almost abandoned cottages. I am sure that if they haven't been renovated, they could be and would become 'fair' (teg) again.
Gwil Tai Teg ( I didn't know his surname) was the farmer and had a very high-pitched voice.
As I am sure you know, 'Tai' is the Welsh plural of 'Ty' = house, therefore 'tai' = houses.
The chapel has a graveyard - but I never looked at the gravestones. 'Er cof am' means 'in loving memory of' if you ever go there to look.
Sincerely,
Rachel Bowen
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eric
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I remember visiting my uncle ,aunt and cousins in Lodge Uchaf ,Melin y Wig.I wonder if the property is still there.I would love to receive some information concerning the property. Ceri
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Rachel Bowen
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Hello, I don't know of a 'Lodge Uchaf', but There was a Ty Uchaf - meaning upper house. I don't remember seeing Lodge Uchaf on the ordnance Survey maps either. Our house, Ty Isaf was Lower House. Mrs Thomas lived in Ty Uchaf. I used to but my Christmas turkey from her. The name Ty Uchaf in speech gets shortened to Tuchaf - or even Tucha. Everyone called Mrs Thomas - Mrs Thomas Tycha - all one name. and we were Pook Tysa, or Pook Tisa, or just Tysa - as the house, built in 1642, was 'permanent', and we were transitory.
There was as well, Ty Canol - middle house. The houses were named according to their position on the hillside. These three must have been the earliest ones built.
By the way, the Mrs Thomas I used to buy my turkey from was not a young woman, and I don't remember if there were any sons (or daughters for that matter) however if there were sons, the farm might well be in the same name. Try the telephone directory.
Sincerely,
Rachel Bowen
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eric
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Thanks for your prompt respond to my query.I will check again to see if I have the right address.
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