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lesleyhannah
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Dinah DOUTHWAITE - Sculcoates
« on: Sunday 12 June 05 14:51 BST (UK) »

In the 1881 census my great-grandmother's family had a grandson living with them John William Lowsley aged 7. His birth certificate gives his parents as Benjamin LOWSLEY and Dinah DOUTHWAITE. They were married in 1870, Sculcoates, but after that there is no mention of Dinah, and I can't find any record of her death.

Does anyone have any information or suggestions? Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: Dinah DOUTHWAITE - Sculcoates
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 June 05 14:59 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Don't know if this is much help, but there is a marriage for a Dinah Lowsley in Sep 1877 in Sculcoates, 9d 237
Spose: either William Marwood or Andrew Peart.

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Re: Dinah DOUTHWAITE - Sculcoates
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 June 05 18:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Lesley, check this out
1871 cencus Sculcoates
RG10/4783
Folio 99
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Benjamin Losley abt 1851  Hull, Yorkshire, England Lodger  Sculcoates  Yorkshire   
Deana Losley abt 1850  Hull, Yorkshire, England Lodger  Sculcoates  Yorkshire 
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On the original image it does look like those names but maybe the enumerator wrote it down like it sounded.

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 June 05 18:14 BST (UK) »

If as suggested that Dinah re-married,this could be Benjamin with his 2nd wife as the name on the original image could be Lowsley
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1891 cencus Sutton (Hull)
RG12/3913
Folio 66
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Lousley Eliza abt 1857 Hull  England Wife  Sutton [with Stoneferry]  Yorkshire   
Lousley Elizabeth abt 1884 HullEngland Daughter  Sutton [with Stoneferry]  Yorkshire   
Lousley James abt 1882 Hull Son  Sutton [with Stoneferry]  Yorkshire   
Lousley John W abt 1874 Hull Son  Sutton [with Stoneferry]  Yorkshire   
Lousley Samuel W abt 1888 Hull Son  Sutton [with Stoneferry]  Yorkshire
Lousley Benjamin abt 1852 Hull Head  Sutton [with Stoneferry]  Yorkshire     

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Re: Dinah DOUTHWAITE - Sculcoates
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 June 05 18:18 BST (UK) »

Thank you all - These are great leads, and I'm very grateful. Lesley
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 June 05 18:28 BST (UK) »

Dinah must have married Andrew Peart, here they are in 1881
Address 4 New Zealand Terrace, Sculcoates
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Andrew Peart abt 1855  Hull, Yorkshire, England Head   
Dinah Peart abt 1854  Holderness Ganstead Wife 
Fredk. Peart abt 1878  Hull, Yorkshire, England Son
Henry Peart abt 1880  Hull, Yorkshire, England Son 
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 June 05 20:41 BST (UK) »

Thanks again. It hadn't occurred to me that Dinah might have remarried - I'd assumed she'd died and spent ages looking through the indexes for her death.  I always thought divorce would have been out of the question for working class couples in the 1850s. So I'm very grateful to you and Tati.
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Re: Dinah DOUTHWAITE - Sculcoates
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 June 05 17:02 BST (UK) »

Just an update -

I sent for the relevant marriage certs and as Joe and Tati suggested, Dinah Lowsley (nee Douthwaite) had remarried Andrew Peart, in Sept 1877. The marriage cert describes her as a 'widow'. She married in Sculcoates but moved to London.

Ben Lowsley remarried Eliza Blatherwick in December 1877; he is described as a 'bachelor'. He married in Nottingham.

In 1901 Ben's son to Dinah was living with him and his new family.

Now, as Ben definitely wasn't a bachelor at his second marriage, and Dinah most certainly wasn't a widow, I'm left wondering whether these were both bigamous relationships.

I'm not sure how easy it was to get a divorce in 1870s, but the Lowsleys were very poor - I'd love to hear if anyone has any info about this subject.

Thanks again to everyone who helped me solve one problem (and left me with a very interesting followup!)

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 June 05 17:17 BST (UK) »

I can't help you with the divorce question, but just wanted to say it's nice to read the follow-up  Cool

Would they have had themselses down as 'widow' and 'bachelor' if they had actually had a legal divorce? Doesn't seem too likely, does it?   

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Re: Dinah DOUTHWAITE - Sculcoates
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 25 June 05 19:28 BST (UK) »

Hi
I cant help either but agree with Tati its great to hear about the follow up.
Just on the subject of divorce back then, I was doing a look up the other day and found in the column that says " condition "
it said Mar and squashed just above ie clearly said separated, now ive looked through thousands of these original images and ive never seen it before.
However, like Lesley i too would like to know how they got divorced when there was no money.

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 25 June 05 20:09 BST (UK) »

 Huh Would Dinah still have been a Lowsley after a divorce?



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