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cgirl057
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Auchentorlie house
« on: Tuesday 14 June 05 07:29 UTC (UK) »

I am looking for information on Auchentorlie house on seed hill road in paisley.

my grandmother was born there about 1912 and then given up to another family. (i would say adopted except there are no records at all that we know of, so i imagine she was just given away) i have not been able to find anything out about auchentorlie house. can anyone help??

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Falkyrn
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 20:59 UTC (UK) »

If you try a google search on Auchentorlie house ..... once you get past the history of the Buchanan family who had Auchentorlie House in Dumbartonshire you will find several references to Auchentorlie house in paisley .... many of these references appear to indicate that it was a nursing home and/or orphanage at some time in its life.

Certainly there is still a link in the area as you have Auchentorlie Quadrant in seedhill road near hawkhead road.

I admit I have often wondered where the street name came from.

you could try asking on http://www.paisley.org.uk/ if no one on rootschat can help.
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 07:14 UTC (UK) »

many thanks for that, i have done a few google searches myself, but have to admit to not finding much other than the Buchanan family.

i will look again though.

would you know out of interest if there would ever be record kept of adoptions. (i realise it was not necessary to have full paper work till around the 2o's but i find it hard to believe children were just given away freely)

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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 10:22 UTC (UK) »

I'm not sure about the adoption paperwork although like you I suspect there should be ... but then again as I learn more about the past I am often surprised by many things our ancestors did.

Paisley records would have been held by Paisley Sheriff Court and subsequently transferred to the Crown Office and then on to National Archives Scotland.

Update .... re adoption .... Adoption as we understand it today did not come into being in Scotland until 1930 (slightly earlier in England)
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 10:27 UTC (UK) »

I don't know if you have had a look at http://195.153.34.3/dservea/ it is a searchable index of the documents held by NAS entr the surname you are searching on and any occurrences in the documents give you a reference number to the whole document.
I don't know if adoptions are included but divorces are and some relatively recent (no pun intended)
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 September 05 17:35 UTC (UK) »

my mother was born in aucentorilie hose in 1931 i agree there is very little info on the web but through the help of paisley libary who are in the process of opening poor law records i do have a little info
     it was a specialist unit for the care of poor mothers sick children and foundlings
      it was a kind of reception centre for the examination of poor and sick children who were then sent on to other orphanages around the renfrew area
          i have found my granny was admited for the birth of my mother as she was suffering the early stages of tb
            after the birth she was sent to gateshide hospital and my mother was put into the care of her father
   i hope this helps  if i get any more i will share it with you 
           love christine
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 May 07 18:59 UTC (UK) »

Auchentorlie house started as a grande home for the Buchanan family and finished as a hospital     it was a specialist unit for the care of poor mothers sick children and foundlings
      it was a kind of reception centre for the examination of poor and sick children who were then sent on to other orphanages around the area

   Auchentolie house was knocked down and replaced with a beautiful home for the Thompson family who now own the land and have done so since the mid 20th Century at least... The remaining parts of the house are the ruins of a Laundry that sits next to Auchentolrlie dam, which is where the servants used to visit to do daily tasks

My family live on the land now, so it was strange to find your entry xxxxxxxxx
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 June 07 12:27 UTC (UK) »

thankyou for all that info

i was told it was a sort of half way house for mothers and children

a sort of reception centre where they were assesd before being moved on

my granny was actually dying from tb when she had my mother in 1931

she was moved to the smitheston hospital in greenock where she died in 1936

my mother ended up in carngeige park orphange in port glasgow

thank so much for filling in the missing details

love chrissey
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 January 08 21:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chrissy,
Just came across your entry re Auchentorlie House.  The previous message re Buchanan is confusing as I am positive it refers to the better known Auchentorlie House in Dunbartonshire.  The Paisley one you are referring to was at one time owned by a whisky broker by the name of Cattenach which was a large private house employing tutor, servants and coachman.  The coachman was my greatgrandfather who lived in the lodge.  If you search under the census 1881/1891/1901 it is still a private house.  If you can find an old map it was in large grounds which is now part of Ciba and the old Seedhill Finishing Co.
Cheers
Liz
PS  I keep meaning to go to the libary at Paisley as they have hundreds of photos as I  would love to find out if they have any of Auchentorlie House at Seedhill.
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 31 January 08 21:21 UTC (UK) »

Whoever owned Auchentorlie House in Paisley, by the early 1900's it seems to be well linked with some form of Hospital work. It is listed as the contact address for a certified midwife in a 1918 Nursing Journal
http://rcnarchive.rcn.org.uk/data/VOLUME060-1918/page142-volume60-23rdfebruary1918.pdf
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #10 on: Friday 01 February 08 12:06 UTC (UK) »

i have a copy of that article

according to the archives at paisley they  belive it was a medical facillity for the poor

mainly mothers and children

my mother was born there in march 1931

there may be more information coming out as poor law records have a 70 year closure on them

hopefully we will find out more

love chrissey

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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #11 on: Friday 22 May 09 18:41 UTC (UK) »

Auchentorlie house started as a grande home for the Buchanan family and finished as a hospital     it was a specialist unit for the care of poor mothers sick children and foundlings
      it was a kind of reception centre for the examination of poor and sick children who were then sent on to other orphanages around the area

   Auchentolie house was knocked down and replaced with a beautiful home for the Thompson family who now own the land and have done so since the mid 20th Century at least... The remaining parts of the house are the ruins of a Laundry that sits next to Auchentolrlie dam, which is where the servants used to visit to do daily tasks

My family live on the land now, so it was strange to find your entry xxxxxxxxx
Hi Andy

I have just come across your reply to an enquiry regarding Auchentorlie House.  My late Mother was born there in 1929. I know from the poor law records that I found at Paisley Library that it was a place for mothers and children as it tells me thats where the Paisley parish council sent her mother. Her sister was sent to ?? Road whilst my mother was being born.

I.m desperately hoping that you may have some old photographs of the premises as for a long time now the trails do go cold when searching for Auchentorlie House and a lot link to the Auchentorlie at Dumbarton which I thinkare separate.

I know you posted your news a long time ago but am keeping my fingers crossed that you may see this messsage and have some old documentation concerning the place around.

Kindest regards

Cecilia
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #12 on: Friday 22 May 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi Celia,
The confusion is coming between Dumbartonshire and Paisley.(nothing to do with each other)
My grandfather was in Auchtenorlie House Paisley(as a coachman)  which is at Seedhill, Paisley on the grounds of Ciba Geigy and the Seedhill Finishing Company.  I think the one in Dumbartonshire was much more granduer!
Auchentorlie in Paisley  (I have the census) was owned by the Cattanach family who were involved in the whisky business.  After their deaths, according to my aunts memory  it was taken over as a "poor hospital and home" Your best  bet is getting in touch with Paisley Library as Auchentorlie changed many times after a private dwelling.
Liz
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 28 May 09 20:01 UTC (UK) »

i know when i first contacted paisley archives about it they had not opened the poor law records and had very little info about the use of it

i also would love to find out a bit more

chrissey
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Re: Auchentorlie house
« Reply #14 on: Friday 29 May 09 18:12 UTC (UK) »

Chrissey - there is an interesting article in the Paisley.Org   about Paisley Mansions, including Auchentorlie house, which you may find interesting.  It is listed under Paisley Mansions.  Do hope you will have a look. 

Best wishes,
Cuthie
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