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Topic: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please (Read 652 times)
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Vanessa
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Could some kind person look up 1861 or 1871 Gloucester.
Looking for Frederick FREEMAN born abt 1860 Gloucester
Fathers name Joseph. I'm afraid thats all the info I have.
Thank you in advance
Vanessa
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janan
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Hi Vanessa
At the moment he's only showing in 1891 and 1901  If you need him then as well let me know and I'll post details. Will keep looking.
Regards Jan 
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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Arranroots
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Hi Vanessa
He is not showing up on either census I'm afraid. Do you have him on later censuses? Names of siblings or wife, occupation in later life, anything that would help. Did the family move from Gloucestershire at some stage?
kind regards, Arranroots
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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janan
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Hi again Vanessa
The Frederick who seems to fit for 1891 and 1901 is Frederick H in Cirencester , there is a Henry Freeman, which could be the same chap, in 1861 in Cirencester but his father is Frederick not Joseph. What do you think?
 Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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Vanessa
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Hi again Jan
His name is Frederick Henry Freeman, as its on my Grandfathers Birth certificate.
On his Marriage certificate 1885 he is only Frederick aged 24 and his father Joseph Freeman is deceased at the time.
I am sure he must have had brothers or sisters, don't know their names.
Not sure if any of this is much help
Regards Vanessa
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janan
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Sorry the Henry is in 1871 not 61. He is shown as Henry E in 1861 so probably not yours, he does have a brother Frederick H but he is 10 in 1861 Otherwise nothing else doing.
Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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janan
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What is Joseph's occupation on the marriage certificate - maybe he had a middle name as well
Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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janan
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Found two more Henrys in 1861 both have fathers called Henry - so 3 Henrys of right age in 1861, but only 2 showing  in 1871 one is the Henry E so not yours, one Henry J so not yours either no third Henry no Frederick either  . In 1891 and 1901 2 Henrys and the Frederick H who I think may well be yours. I'll see what 1881 turns up.
No Frederick in 1881 but now 4 Henrys one of which is married to a Sarah the other a lodger and single. The birthplace of the Henrys changes each census
Jan 
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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Hi Vanessa
The marriage certificate ................. date/place/address/occupation/father's occuaption/marriage witnesses .............. please 
All or any of these details just may help somebody locate him for you.
Could you please be a bit more specific as to what census years you have found him in?
Best wishes
Casalguidi
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Vanessa
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Hi Casalguidi
The marriage certificate
27 Feb 1885 Cirencester register office.
Frederick Freeman 24 living at Stepstairs Lane Cirencester occupation Musician (I believe he was a bandsman in the Army before marriage) Father Joseph Freeman Deceased occupation Labour.
Leah Palmer 23 living at Stepstairs Lane Cirencester no occupation Father William Palmer occupation gardener
Witnesses: Leo/Geo Gostling and M J Parsons.
1891 Census
Frederick H Freeman Head M 30 Stationary Engine Driver Born Gloucester
Leah J Freeman Wife M 29 Born Stow on the Wold
With children
Address 4 Concrete Cottages Stepstair Lane Cirencester
1901
Frederic Freeman 41 born Glos Gloucester living in Cirencester Engine driver Bacon Factory.
I don't have the full details.
Leah Jane Palmer born sept quarter 1859 Stow on the Wold
In 1881 Census
Leah Palmer U 22 Serv Domestic Serv Housemaid born Stow on the Wold
Address Saint Aldwyns Flockton Road Lewisham Kent
I hope this may help someone locate him
I did find a Frederick Henry Freeman born dec quarter 1859 at Medway Kent. When I sent for the birth certificate the fathers name wasn't Joseph, so I haven't brought it yet. It could be him not sure. Any suggestions
Best Regards
Vanessa
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Arranroots
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I have just "walked" Stepstairs Lane in 1881 and none of your rellies seem to be there.
Just so nobody else does it.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Arranroots
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No Frederick FREEMAN on Gordon Beavington's 1851/ 61/ 71 census index for Gloucestershire.
Several Josephs, none in Gloucester itself.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Checked 1861 and 1871 Channel Islands and Wales for FREEMAN.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Vanessa
In 1871 and 81 there is a Henry Freeman living in Barrow Gloucs born Barrow circa 1864 with father Joseph a farm labourer. Happy to post details if you think that could be him.
Cheers Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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