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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 11:55 BST (UK) »

Joanne - I would like the details for Leah - thank you

Arranroots - Thank you for the 1901 details.

Its quite likley the Freeman family could be used to using second names or something completely different.
John 4 months 1901 must be my grandfather, I have his birth cert. 12th sept 1901 - 1 Mount Terrace Chesterton Lane Cirencester but he is Robert Henry, not John .

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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:07 BST (UK) »

I found this family in Prior's Norton 1851.  That's between Boddington and Gloucester.  Not sure if it helps..   Grin Huh

FREEMAN Joseph 36  Ag Lab Leigh
Elizabeth 34  Ag Lab Norton
David Thomas 11 Norton
Mary Ann 8 Norton
Julia 6 Norton
Emma 4 Norton
James 1 Norton

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:08 BST (UK) »

1871 rg10/2646 folio 149 page 22

FACTORY YARD,  CIRENCESTER

WILLIAM PALMER, HEAD, 38, LABOURER, BORN  CIRENCESTER

ANN PALMER, WIFE, 34, BORN CIRENCESTER

LEAH PALMER, DAUGHTER,11 BORN CIRENCESTER

EMILY PALMER, DAUGHTER, 8, BORN CIRENCESTER

FREDERICK PALMER, SON, 5, BORN CIRENCESTER

WILLIAM PALMER, 5 MONTHS, BORN CIRENCESTOR


There were two other Leah Palmer's in Gloucestershire, this was the only one with father called William

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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:13 BST (UK) »

Thank you Joanne
Yes thats the Palmers
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:14 BST (UK) »

1861

RG9/1782 FOLIO 117 PAGE 21
GLOUCESTER STREET CIRENCESTER (THE ADDRESS ON THE 71 WAS GIVEN AS THIS TOO)

WILLIAM PALMER, HEAD, 27, LABOURER(AGRICULTURAL), BORN BOULTON ON THE WOLD

ANN PALMER, WIFE, 24, BORN CIRENCESTER

LEAH PALMER, DAUGHTER, 1, BORN  STOW ON THE WOLD


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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:19 BST (UK) »

Thank you Joanne
Thats them again.  I have found William in 1851 as well born Bourton on the Water.

Still not sure what to do about Frederick have you any suggestions?
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:23 BST (UK) »

Hi Vanessa, why not drop a letter and cheq to the registrar office that hold his birth cert, you have an approx date of his birth from his marriage cert, give as much info as poss, including his fathers details.
if they don'tfind it they will return the cheq

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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:24 BST (UK) »

BTW Jo, your 1871 is better than you suggest as it states Leah born Stow.

At least that explains why they ended up in Ciren!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:33 BST (UK) »

Thank you for all your help
Not sure what register office to send to.  I am living in France.  Would it be gloucester?
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:38 BST (UK) »

Hi Vanessa

Yes, Gloucester office.  You will find their details online.

Your grandfather would not have been born at the time of the census in 1901 - it was taken in March (forget the exact date).  You will have to wait for the 1911 census to see him, I'm afraid!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:41 BST (UK) »

Thank you all once again for you help

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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 12:44 BST (UK) »

this is the link for the reg districts in gloucestershire

http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/gls.htm

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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 16:03 BST (UK) »

Hi Vanessa
Could you post 1851 details for William Palmer - where was he living? parents or siblings with him? I'll try looking for him in 1841. Ann too if you know maiden name.

I'll post the family I found in Barrow as  it is the best match I can find, in case they do turn out to be yours.  Best of luck with your continued search, let us know how you get on.
Wink Jan

1871
Barrow, Boddington
Joseph Freeman Head Mar 49 Labourer Boddington
Sarah Freeman Wife Mar Wife ? Rostbury (the ? is the enumerators not mine, no county given)
Albert Freeman Son 12 Boddington
Martha Do Daur 10 Boddington
Henry Do Son 7 Boddington
Ann Do Daur 3 Boddington
RG10/2676 ED10 Folio114 Pg6

1881
Barrow Boddington
Joseph Freeman Head Mar 59 Farm labourer Gloucs Barrow
Sarah Freeman Wife Mar 57 Household Work Gloucs Pristbury
Albert Do Son Unm 22 Farm Labourer Barrow
Martha Do Daur Unm 19 Plain server Barrow
Henry Do Son Unm 17 Farm Labourer Barrow
Annie Do Daur 13 Scholar Barrow
RG11/2579 ED24 Folio130 Pg4

1861
Boddington Manor, Boddington
Joseph Freeman Head Mar 39 Ag Lab Boddington
Sarah Freeman Wife Mar 36 Gloshire (sic)  Prestbury
Alice Do Daur 6 Boddington
Hannah Do 5 Boddington
Albert Do Son 2 Boddington
RG9/1804 ED96 Folio1 Pg4

and for good measure in 1841
Boddington
Henry Freeman 45 Ag Lab Yes
Edith Freeman 45 Yes
Joseph Freeman 15 Yes
HO107-0367 ED10 Folio8 Pg11

Shame if they're nothing to do with you Cry
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 16 June 05 12:21 BST (UK) »

Hi Jan
Thank you for the Freemans.  I shall try sending to Gloucester Registry office for Frederick birth cert.

The 1851 details for William Palmer:
Stow on the Wold 1851 (no address)
PALMER Rosanna  26 U emp at home  Chedworth
  "      Thomas  21 brother U  ag Lab  Bourton on the water
  "      William   19 brother U  ag Lab  Bourton on the water
  "     Elizabeth 15  sister  U emp at home Borton on Water
HUMPHRIES Hanna lodger 70 emp at home Condicott


I am quite sure William Palmers parents were John & Racheal


1851 Chedworth
Rachel Palmer Visitor w 55 Chedworth
Staying with a PEACHY family

1861 Stow on the Wold
PALMER Racheal w 66 alms house pauper  Chedworth
   "       Rosanna 33 ag Lab  Chedworth
   "       John  4  grandson scholar  Stow on the Wold

I hope this will make it easier for you

Many thanks
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Lookup please
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 16 June 05 12:28 BST (UK) »

Hi again Jan

Just found out that William Palmer married Dec Quater 1858 Cirencester to Ann TOWNSEND.

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