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R C in Dunbartonshire????
« on: Monday 16 May 05 00:22 BST (UK) »

Alexander Stuart McMillan married in the RC Church in England Epsom, Surrey. Were there RC Scots born in Helensburg Dunbartonshire??
Did he just go along with his bride's religion??
Advice please??  Jill
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Scotland, Caithness - Swanson, Carson Dunbartonshire- McMillan
Middlesex Willesden - Pearce, Walker, Davey
Somerset - Pearce, Hodson
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 May 05 14:26 BST (UK) »

Yes, there were Roman Catholics born there not just marrying into the religion, (although that was common too).
Hope this helps

Amanda
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GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 May 05 17:44 BST (UK) »

Absolutely!  There are tons of RC's in Dunbartonshire.  At a guess, the village my family is from - Duntocher -  was/is about 80% Roman Catholic.  It is even known locally as "little Ireland"
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 May 05 19:55 BST (UK) »

Amanda and Debbie -A big THANK YOU! You can see my interests and if I can help you in any way please ask.                                                I shall now want to look in Catholic registers as well as the local kirk but I shall go for RC first.
I'm flying to Glasgow for a week in June - have you any advice on where to go/ what I should do?
I want to hire a car and go to this Helensburgh but if I should spend time in Glasgow, I don't want to have to park a car.
I'm so excited as Helenburgh is the birthplace of my great grandfather and at 67yrs (birthday today), I'm discovering things I have never known about my family. Jill
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Scotland, Caithness - Swanson, Carson Dunbartonshire- McMillan
Middlesex Willesden - Pearce, Walker, Davey
Somerset - Pearce, Hodson
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 May 05 21:10 BST (UK) »

Hi Jill,

I hope the weather holds out for your trip.
Helensburgh is a lovely place. I used to live in Dunbartonshire myself and took day trips to Helensburgh. If the weather is nice it makes all the difference. Als not too far from Loch Lomond which is a lovely place to go too.

As far as your research goes, the best place to visit is Edinburgh. This is where all the records for Scotland are held. If you go to this link it will take you to their site which has all the information you need there.

If there is anything else you would like about the area just let me know.

Hope this helps you some anyway. Hope you had a nice birthday!
Enjoy Scotland! Smiley

Amanda

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DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 May 05 22:11 BST (UK) »

Have a fabulous trip!!  The Loch Lomond area is a beautiful place to stay, and you can probably find some cheaper B&B's outside of Glasgow. 
Edinburgh is the place for research, visit the Mitchell Library though while you are in Glasgow. 

Here is a couple more library addresses for you -

HELENSBURGH Helensburgh Library
West King Street
Helensburgh
G84 8EB
Tel:01436 674626 Fax:01436 679567

NB There is a reference librarian in Helensburgh but the local studies' librarian for Helensburgh, Garelochhead,
Rosneath, Arrochar Luss and part of Cardross is based in Dunoon.

DUNOON
Local Studies Collection
District Library Headquarters,
Highland Ave, Sandbank,
Dunoon PA23 8PB
Tel:01369 703214 Fax: 01389 705797

Have fun, and wave to Duntocher for me as you drive down the Great Western Road.   Smiley Smiley
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 08:49 BST (UK) »

Debbie and Amanda - THANK YOU!

I'll print off your suggestions and take with me. When I return, I'll post a quick message. Thanks again. Jill
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 20:37 BST (UK) »

I am sorry Jill i have just noticed i didn't post the link!

http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/

Hope you have a great time.

Debbie i used to live in Clydebank. Also used to drink in a few pubs in Duntocher too. Small workd isn't it!

Amanda
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PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 22:59 BST (UK) »

Debbie i used to live in Clydebank. Also used to drink in a few pubs in Duntocher too. Small workd isn't it!

Amanda

Sure is a small world!  I have fond memories of O'Donnells & O'Neil's...  Never did have a drink in Filshie's though - only the fellows went in!
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 23 June 05 11:54 BST (UK) »

I spent 2 days solidly searching parish records and the early census looking for my McMillan family and in the 1841 census
Row/Rhu (Helensburgh) James St -I found -
Alexander MacMillan 60 labourer born in Scotland but not Dunbartonshire
Sarah wife 35 born not in Scotland
J anny 3  b Dumbarton Row/Rhu
Ann 1 b Dumbarton Row/Rhu

but nothing in the parish records for marriage or births
Death certificate in Dumbarton 1857 for Alexander McMillan aged 75 toll keeper. Parents Robert McMillan and Agnes Barclay
His daughter Janet McCreath was the informant.

It would fit but no marriage for a McMillan and McCreath or a McMillan and Barclay on scotlandspeople.

I'm now requesting a search of the RC records at the Archdiocese of Glasgow but it's not clear that Row/Rhu are covered in their records although I looked at their online site.

I also found a birth for Janet MacMillan 04/07/1838 parents Alexander MacMillan and Sarah Fraser in Little Dunkeld (Perthshire) but I think it is a coincidence.

I think it is possible that Sarah was Irish and maybe the RC! Or the McMillan family too. What do you think?
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Somerset - Pearce, Hodson
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Re: R C in Dunbartonshire????
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 23 June 05 19:12 BST (UK) »

I think you are right about Sarah possibly being Irish.  Although, it was usual for the Husband's religion to be the one that dominated the marriage, and dictated which faith the children were to be raised in.  So it is probable that your Alexander was RC as well.

It also looks like Sarah was Alexanders second wife??  His age 60, and her age 35 in the census, with two such young children.

They may have even met at the RC church - if Sarah did move to Scotland from Ireland, she would have been active in the church for social and economic reasons.

What about the 1851 census - Sarah and the children should be there.  Possibly even Alexander, at 70 years of age.
The 1851 would tell more on all their birthplaces.

How was the rest of your trip?  Tell us all the details!

Deb
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