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Topic: LOOK UP FOR JANET THOMPSON OF DUMFRIES MARRAIGE TO GEORGE THOMPSON OF GALWAY(?) (Read 472 times)
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Jan Tivey
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HELLO EVERYONE!
WE ARE COMPILING OUR FAMILY TREE AND HAVE COME UP WITH THE FOLLOWING:
1861 Census Manchester England Barton on Irwell
Widow Janet Thompson b abt 1823 Annan Dumfries
Son William b 1842 Dumfries
Son Robert b 1843 Dumfries
Son John b 1849 Barton on Irwell Manchester England
Son Henry b 1854 Barton on Irwell Manchester England
CAN ANYONE FIND THEM IN EARLIER CENSUS (1840's 1850's) IN SCOTLAND
Also the marriage of Janet AND GEORGE and her maiden name
All help apprecated! If anyone has a connection with earlier Thompson's please contact us,
Many Thanks
Jan
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« Last Edit: Sunday 19 June 05 12:43 UTC (UK) by jan tivey »
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk TIVEY, WILDE, Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare, Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker, & more! |
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Boongie Pam
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Hiya Jan,
Oh my! 
You get extreeeemley lucky in finding parishes listed for Scottish born people on an English census but then have a very unlucky collection of names as they are very common.
Okay a couple of thoughts.
ThomPson I believe is considered the "english" spelling and Thomson the scottish. The latter is more frequent in the SW of Scotland. So they maybe either but an english enumerator automatically puts the P in.
Janet is ~ 19 when she has William. Chances are he'll be the first obviously not assuming as much. Therefore I would hazard a guess that she was married between 1840-1842 if she was married at all (Kirkcudbright & Dumfriesshire had teh highest illegitimacy rate in the UK in 1831).
The IGI has a really good coverage for marriages for Annan and Dumfries. I think you should try a male Thom(p)son with a female Janet marriage on all the batch numbers fro Dumfries and Annan. See if you can flush them out that way.
The births of the boys maybe available on Scotlandspeople, there are no boys births on IGI. But that is pay per view. The Dumfries OPR only gives father's names so it would be hard to cross reference fo rthe mum.
As John was born in 1849 in England that suggests they aren't in Dumfriesshire in 1851. 1851 census is available free online here...
http://www.dumgal.gov.uk/HistoricalIndexes/default.aspx
In 1841 Janet could be...
1. In Annan unmarried
2. Working in service (very common) and therefore at an unknown location with an unknown surname and one of the most common first names in Scotland - ouch 
3. Married in Annan or Dumfries or somewhere else.
I have some Dumfriesshire 1841 name indexes.
I looked in Annan for a married Janet
- no luck  for Thompson or Thomson
I looked in Dumfries Burgh for a married Janet
- no luck for Thompson or Thomson
Well not of the right age anyway and I was generous.
I would suggest trying to find
a) Possible marriage on IGI
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b) Birth details of either Henry or John. These will be statutory registrations rather than the hit and miss OPR. It will also give you the maiden name of Janet then I'm sure we'll get some luck with 1841 for Janet.
Annan records are in general quite complete though they get ropey in the 1820s but I still think there is a better than average coverage. My 4xggrandfather was married in Annan in the 1820s and the entry looks liek it is written by a drunken monkey! But it's there
Hope this helps,
Pam
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
Currently offline due to work reasons- sorry for the silence!
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Jan Tivey
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HI PAM
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE - UNFORTUNATELY I DONT THINK THEY WERE STILL IN SCOTLAND IN 1851 AS JANET'S SON JOHN WAS BORN IN BARTON ABT 1849. I WILL SEARCH THE OTHER SOURCES YOU SENT ME AND LET YOU KNOW HOW I GET ON
MANY THANKS
JAN
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk TIVEY, WILDE, Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare, Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker, & more! |
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Jan Tivey
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HI AGAIN
I NOW KNOW THAT JANET MARRIED A GEORGE THOMPSON A RAILWAY POLICEMAN - THANKS TO LANCSLASS!
BUT STILL DONT KNOW JANET'S MAIDEN NAME - GEORGE WAS BORN (GALWAY(?)) SCOTLAND
ALL HELP APPRECIATED!
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk TIVEY, WILDE, Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare, Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker, & more! |
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Boongie Pam
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Hiya,
Was lanclass's info from the 1851 census?
If so that should help trying to find one of the son's birth.
That would give you Janet's name and then we could launch into the OPR.
Here's a possible...
Thompson, Henry
June Qtr
1853
District: Manchester
County: Lancashire
Vol: 8d Page: 305
It maybe worth contacting the local record office or ordering through the gros but request a father check.
All the best,
Pam
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
Currently offline due to work reasons- sorry for the silence!
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Jan Tivey
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Hi all!
Yes I have since discovered thanks to boongie Pam that Galloway is connected with Dumfriesshire!
Also Janet remarried to Miles Shaw between 1861 1nd 1871 of Dalton yet on the marriage IGI it states that her maiden name was Sheen not Thompson (being a widow) i dont know whether this is a transcriber's misinterpretation or that she reverted to her maiden name. CAN ANYONE CHECK THIS FOR ME? census of 1871 Barton England, sees her with three of her children - that's how i have linked them
MANY THANKS
JAN
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk TIVEY, WILDE, Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare, Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker, & more! |
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