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Stanton by Bridge, birth/baptism, c1798
« on: Wednesday 15 June 05 23:20 BST (UK) »

If anyone has access to the late 18th century parish records for Stanton by Bridge, I am interetsed in the following person:

Lydia Ward, born Stanton by Bridge c 1798

I would like any details, particularly her parentage.

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Mark
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Re: Stanton by Bridge, birth/baptism, c1798
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 June 05 00:58 BST (UK) »

Hello Mark,

Don't know if this helps but I found this on the IGI (you've probably seen it already but it seems like a definate maybe!!  Huh  )-

Lydia Ward - Christening
     25th Jan 1898
     St. Peter, Derby
     Parents - Robert & Ann Ward

also same place, same parents -

William Ward - Christening - 4th Apr 1796

Robert Ward - Christening - 24th Feb 1800

I know it's not Stanton by Bridge but the date matches.   Undecided  So looked at the 1841 census to see if I could find any Ward's and found -

1841

Stanton by Bridge

Robert Ward      80    Independent     born in county - yes
William Ward      41    Labourer                   yes
John Ward         45                                  yes
Mary Truscott    32                                   no

                             (HO107/ 192/ 8/ 4)

What do you reckon?  Well, I've given you something to think about if nothing else!!!    Grin

Best Wishes
Sue    Smiley

 

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Re: Stanton by Bridge, birth/baptism, c1798
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 June 05 20:32 BST (UK) »

Thanks

Yes, I had seen the IGI entries you mentioned. Its one of those quandries you get now and then: A baptism for a (probably) not too unusual name, that is just far enough away from the later census birth locations (on 1851, 61 and 71) to leave some doubt. She was also married in Stanton in 1821.

Stanton By Bridge is 25km from the centre of Derby.

I also believe that Lydia herself was in Birmingham (under her married name of Cubley) in 1841 but am yet to check that out (although her childrens birth locations either side of 1841 appear to point that way).

I was just hoping that something would actually turn up in Stanton itself. I'm not sure at the moment that I can really go with the idea of these Lydia Wards being one and the same. Its a dilemma!

But the Robert Ward entry may help, although it is a common name. I could find no death for an Ann Ward in the vicinity of Stanton between 1800 and 1841. The death of such a person might have helped with the Robert/Ann parentage line.

There is a 1792 entry for a John Ward birth in Ingleby but there are no parents named and it clouds the issue even more because Ingleby is right next door to Stanton, but the later children appear to be baptised in Derby and are then settled in Stanton! Its possible they were all baptised at a church in Derby whilst living in Ingleby/Stanton.

I'm not sure how much of Stanton records are on the IGI so there may be holes anyway.


Hmmmmm....
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Re: Stanton by Bridge, birth/baptism, c1798
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 June 05 20:44 BST (UK) »

Just for info...

I have at least found out that the Robert Ward in Stanton was the licensed victualler at the Dog & Duck, in 1827 and 1835.

Not that it helps a great deal other than one would expect he will have left a will which hopefully would mention Lydia (if she is in fact his daughter).

MAYBE THATS MY NEXT LINE...

Cheers

Mark
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WINGFIELD/MARSDEN/MARSHALL/COOKE/JACKSON - Ecclesall Bierlow/Sheffield, Yorkshire
PARKIN/THACKRAY - Rotherham/Sheffield, Yorkshire
LITTLEWOOD/BURNHAM/BANKS - East Retford, Notts
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Re: Stanton by Bridge, birth/baptism, c1798
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 June 05 20:51 BST (UK) »

Does anybody have the 1851 census details for Robert Ward mentioned earlier (probably aged about 90) as I have the death of a Robert Ward in the Shardlow district in 1852, and need to know if he was still alive in 1851.

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Mark
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CLARKE/DUFFIELD/BOWLER - Abingdon, Oxfordshire
WINGFIELD/MARSDEN/MARSHALL/COOKE/JACKSON - Ecclesall Bierlow/Sheffield, Yorkshire
PARKIN/THACKRAY - Rotherham/Sheffield, Yorkshire
LITTLEWOOD/BURNHAM/BANKS - East Retford, Notts
STAFFORD/LEGGE - Gloucestershire
CRAYFORD/SMITH - Kent

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Re: Stanton by Bridge, birth/baptism, c1798
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 June 05 21:27 BST (UK) »

Hello Mark,

It sounds like you have quite a conundrum to sort out!   Grin   A couple of pieces of info for you - the 1851 name index has the following -

1851

Ward, Robert  - 89
Ward, William  - 48

       (HO107/ 2140/ 378/ 28)  - "2140" area includes Stanton by Bridge

They are the only 2 Ward's listed with same ref. nos.  The full transcript is not yet avilable on CD ROM.  It would need a trip to the local records office to view the microfiche to get the full info.   

Secondly, you mentioned that Lydia married and became a "Cubley", it's quite an unusual name so reminded me that I had seen it whilst doing the previous lookup for you.  Anyway this is what I found -

1841

Stanton by Bridge

Mary Cubley    21    F. Servant    born in county - yes

                            (HO107/ 192/ 8/ 8 )

and on the 1851 index -

Cubley, Mary - 34  (HO107/ 2140/ 377/ 24)

Every little helps!!   Undecided

All the best with your research.
Sue    Smiley

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