Welcome, Guest. Please login or register for free.
Did you miss your activation email?
Wednesday 03 December 08 01:53 GMT (UK)
Welcome Home Help Shop Search Calendar Login Register
Search Images 

Online
 
  First Name(s)

Last Name

 
News: Ad: Search the 1891 Wales Census - find them today.

+  RootsChat.Com
|-+  General
| |-+  Photograph Restoration & Dating. Conservation (Moderators: deadants, PrueM)
| | |-+  Try these...please
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 Print
Author Topic: Try these...please  (Read 3939 times)
fin
RootsChat Extra
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 79



WWW
Try these...please
« on: Wednesday 15 June 05 08:58 BST (UK) »

I'm good in a darkromm with a 35mm camera but computer re-enhancement really are beyond me. I understand filters and developers but not layers. Try as I like, with as many different software packages as I can find, all I make is a mess.

The two images here are my next-door neighbours brother and mother which I have cleaned up for her, but I'd like to bring life back into them. All help appreciated.


* dek.jpg (56.67 KB, 520x718 - viewed 732 times.)

* Marys_mum.jpg (90.21 KB, 706x900 - viewed 729 times.)
Logged

Gore, Marsden, Bright. Cassidy, Cushnahan, McNeill, Mulgrew, Lakeman. Williamson, Marriner, Sparrow, Page, Drury, Jones

BMD Certificate & Census layouts are Crown Copyright. The information contained on them is NOT.
fin
RootsChat Extra
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 79



WWW
...and this one
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 09:01 BST (UK) »

Cheeky of me but can anyone bring this one to life?


* derek.jpg (65.56 KB, 532x755 - viewed 728 times.)
Logged

Gore, Marsden, Bright. Cassidy, Cushnahan, McNeill, Mulgrew, Lakeman. Williamson, Marriner, Sparrow, Page, Drury, Jones

BMD Certificate & Census layouts are Crown Copyright. The information contained on them is NOT.
deadants
Moderator
RootsChat Veteran
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 897



Re: Try these...please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 June 05 06:50 BST (UK) »

Howdy fin,
    these two photos are in pretty good condition so not a lot of work is required to give them a bit of a  lift.
With the sailor, I adjusted the levels on the Red, Green and blue channels. Then cleaned up a few dust and noise marks. Thats about it for him.

    With Mary's Mum, If you look at the green channel you can see where you use the clone tool. So on the green channel I selected the area at the bottom of the picture where the repeating pattern is at its worst and applied a Gaussian blur. I also cleaned as best I could the stain that runs across her chest and the stain in the embroidery work. I then applied the neat image filter to the whole picture to remove the noise. Then I desaturated the picture to a grayscale and finally appled a sepia tone.

Unfortunately at these low resolutions the jpeg artifacts tend to make them look a bit dodgy, but that's the nature of the beast.


* Sailor001.jpg (41.33 KB, 520x718 - viewed 684 times.)

* marys_mum002.jpg (53.72 KB, 706x900 - viewed 686 times.)
Logged

Cleary, Doran, Boland, McCooey, McManus, O'brien, Martin, Savage, Wallis, McCollister, Wood.  (More to come soon)
deadants
Moderator
RootsChat Veteran
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 897



Re: ...and this one
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 June 05 07:23 BST (UK) »

This photo is in good condition as well. So not a great deal needed doing. First duplicate the Layer. Then added a Levels adjustment Layer. Next step I added a brightness/contrast adjustment Layer and reduced the contrast slightly. Next remove scratches and marks. Finally ran the neat image filter to remove noise.


* derek-002.jpg (63.72 KB, 532x755 - viewed 682 times.)
Logged

Cleary, Doran, Boland, McCooey, McManus, O'brien, Martin, Savage, Wallis, McCollister, Wood.  (More to come soon)
fin
RootsChat Extra
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 79



WWW
Many thanks...now can I be really cheeky...
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 June 05 09:38 BST (UK) »

many thanks for that deadpants they look great and Mary is thrilled with them...

...just one little request...how can I turn the two b&w images to colour? I tried 'painting' them in but I just finish-up with a mess.
Logged

Gore, Marsden, Bright. Cassidy, Cushnahan, McNeill, Mulgrew, Lakeman. Williamson, Marriner, Sparrow, Page, Drury, Jones

BMD Certificate & Census layouts are Crown Copyright. The information contained on them is NOT.
deadants
Moderator
RootsChat Veteran
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 897



Re: Try these...please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 June 05 09:50 BST (UK) »

Hi fin,
   What programe are you using to do graphics?

You can do this yourself with a little bit of practice. You will need a program that has layers. Layers are just like putting sheets of clear acitate over the photo that you add colour to.
Logged

Cleary, Doran, Boland, McCooey, McManus, O'brien, Martin, Savage, Wallis, McCollister, Wood.  (More to come soon)
vhansen
RootsChat Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 122



WWW
Re: Try these...please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 June 05 12:11 BST (UK) »

I would say all of these images could look almost "new" with a bit of cleanup. It's tedious, but all those little spots should be cleaned up.  Again, the devil is in the details.
Here's a tutorial I wrote, for a way to clean up an image without using the clone tool (bonus- it also shows you how to use a layer mask).
http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=63
Logged

For the best possible restoration: Scan at 300dpi • full color (even B&W's) • save with as little jpeg compression as possible.

http://www.pbase.com/vhansen
http://www.lifetimephoto.com
fin
RootsChat Extra
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 79



WWW
I have Adobe Deluxe Business Edition but...
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 June 05 13:56 BST (UK) »

...I know where I can get a copy of PhotoPlus7. Could I do it with either of these?

Thanx, Fin
Logged

Gore, Marsden, Bright. Cassidy, Cushnahan, McNeill, Mulgrew, Lakeman. Williamson, Marriner, Sparrow, Page, Drury, Jones

BMD Certificate & Census layouts are Crown Copyright. The information contained on them is NOT.
deadants
Moderator
RootsChat Veteran
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 897



Re: Try these...please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 June 05 23:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Fin,
    I checked out the documentation for Photoplus6, and it does utilize layers. So it should work with colorizing.
http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/PhotoPlus/tutorials/default.asp
Logged

Cleary, Doran, Boland, McCooey, McManus, O'brien, Martin, Savage, Wallis, McCollister, Wood.  (More to come soon)
deadants
Moderator
RootsChat Veteran
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 897



Re: Try these...please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 16 June 05 23:43 BST (UK) »

I would say all of these images could look almost "new" with a bit of cleanup. It's tedious, but all those little spots should be cleaned up.  Again, the devil is in the details.
Here's a tutorial I wrote, for a way to clean up an image without using the clone tool (bonus- it also shows you how to use a layer mask).
http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=63

Hi Vikki,
    I have seen your tutorial on RetouchPRO but have not got around to reading it till today. It is truly awesome. If you don't mind Vikki I will put your link in the locked topics at the top of the forum so it doesn't get lost. I think I will put some other links to some of RetouchPRO's other tutorials that should be basic reading for learners.
Logged

Cleary, Doran, Boland, McCooey, McManus, O'brien, Martin, Savage, Wallis, McCollister, Wood.  (More to come soon)
vhansen
RootsChat Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 122



WWW
Re: Try these...please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 17 June 05 01:48 BST (UK) »

deadants, I don't mind at all. I'm flattered!

I can see that fin is looking to get the motorcycle photo "brought to life", but I really liked this image, and wanted to see it in color. I didn't do a lot of clean up, as I was more interested in coloring. (I have the larger image colored, but thought best to post a smaller version).
Vikki


* vh2221c.jpg (96.12 KB, 353x450 - viewed 640 times.)
Logged

For the best possible restoration: Scan at 300dpi • full color (even B&W's) • save with as little jpeg compression as possible.

http://www.pbase.com/vhansen
http://www.lifetimephoto.com
deadants
Moderator
RootsChat Veteran
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 897



Re: Try these...please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 17 June 05 02:31 BST (UK) »

You have set the standard we should aspire to achieve. I'm off to follow the tutorial on worth1000 on colorizing http://www.worth1000.com/tutorial.asp?sid=161015&page=1 you suggested the other day. You have spurred me on. I'm sure fin will be surprised when she sees your transformed photo.
Logged

Cleary, Doran, Boland, McCooey, McManus, O'brien, Martin, Savage, Wallis, McCollister, Wood.  (More to come soon)
fin
RootsChat Extra
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 79



WWW
Re: Try these...please
« Reply #12 on: Friday 17 June 05 09:18 BST (UK) »

Vikki, I cannot thank you adequately. I printed your work onto photopaper and presented it to Mary. There were tears in her eyes and she extends her warmest thanks to you also. She really is a lovely kind lady, who would do anything for anyone and never looks for thanks or praise, really the 'Neighbour From Heaven'.

Kind regards and many best wishes, Fin
Logged

Gore, Marsden, Bright. Cassidy, Cushnahan, McNeill, Mulgrew, Lakeman. Williamson, Marriner, Sparrow, Page, Drury, Jones

BMD Certificate & Census layouts are Crown Copyright. The information contained on them is NOT.
vhansen
RootsChat Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 122



WWW
Re: Try these...please
« Reply #13 on: Friday 17 June 05 12:28 BST (UK) »

That's a fine compliment, deadants.

Fin, her appreciation is what makes doing these worthwhile. If I had known you were going to print it, I would have posted the larger image. I had some more time to play, so I made another adjustment.


* vh2221d.jpg (95.98 KB, 706x1040 - viewed 599 times.)
« Last Edit: Friday 17 June 05 21:32 BST (UK) by vhansen » Logged

For the best possible restoration: Scan at 300dpi • full color (even B&W's) • save with as little jpeg compression as possible.

http://www.pbase.com/vhansen
http://www.lifetimephoto.com
fin
RootsChat Extra
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 79



WWW
Re: Try these...please
« Reply #14 on: Friday 17 June 05 13:06 BST (UK) »

Vikki you are amazing and I can't thank you enough. I am going to load PhotoPlus7 onto my computer and will try my hand at breathing life into my own old photos  - I have so many 35mm negatives I had to buy a FilmScan 35 to copy them onto the computer. With a 35mm in my hand or locked in a darkroom I'm fine but I guess it's time I tried to catch up with technology - and with your excellent tutorial maybe I'll be able to move out of the 19th century!

I shall now print off this image and frame it for her.

Many thanks, Fin
Logged

Gore, Marsden, Bright. Cassidy, Cushnahan, McNeill, Mulgrew, Lakeman. Williamson, Marriner, Sparrow, Page, Drury, Jones

BMD Certificate & Census layouts are Crown Copyright. The information contained on them is NOT.
Pages: [1] 2 Print 
« previous next »


[Copyright] [Free RootsChat Webspace] [Your Surname Interests] [Shrink Link] [About Us] [Terms of Use]
All Census Lookups are Crown Copyright, National Archives for academic and non-commercial research purposes only
RootsChat.com cannot be held responsible directly or indirectly for the messages or content posted by others. Inline images in messages are the copyright of the respective linked sites.
RootsChat.com, Europa House, Bury, Lancashire, BL9 5BT
0.235:20