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POLAND: Polish Widower - where to start?
« on: Thursday 16 June 05 10:08 BST (UK) »
Hi

Please bear with me - I am new to this!
My mother in law died recently and when her children have beengoing through the necessary paperwork they found out that their (deceased) dad was listed as 'widower' on their marriage certificate.
They were not aware of this and are intrigued to find out some history.
He came to England from Poland in 1946 and his registration card said 'Married' on it. When he married mum in 1952 the marriage certificate said 'widower'.
Is there any way we can find out what happened in between - it possible - even likely - that his first wife was left in Poland.
Any idea where we start?

Thanks in advance.

T
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Re: POLAND: Polish Widower - where to start?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 June 05 11:05 BST (UK) »
More info - I don't know whether it may (or may not) help:

Dad was Jan Materna, born 27th January 1918 in Rudki, near Lvov (then in Poland, now Ukraine) and came to England in '46.
Apparently his registration card said married. I am trying to find out if he settled somewhere else in England before he came to Sheffield.
He died June 3rd 1989 in Sheffield.

When he married mum in 1952 he was a widower. They married in Sheffield.

Questions are: is it possible to find out who he married first time and when did she die? Or even, DID she die? How possible is it that she was left in Poland and assumed dead?

Whole new can o' worms...
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Re: POLAND: Polish Widower - where to start?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 June 05 18:44 BST (UK) »
http://genealogy.about.com/od/poland/ general advice about Polish research

http://genealogypro.com/directories/Poland.html directory of Polish researchers

http://archiwa.gov.pl/?CIDA=43  Polish State Archives (english version)

http://www3.vistatech.net/~jack/pollink.htm  a list of Polish Genealogical links


Sorry I can't offer much more but you may find something in these links to help you get started on your quest.
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Re: POLAND: Polish Widower - where to start?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 June 05 02:31 BST (UK) »



TN

These may give you some ideas!!

http://www.jiggies.com/reference/Halych

http://www.uncover.us/en/wikipedia/l/lv/lviv.html

I'll keep looking

Annie
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Re: POLAND: Polish Widower - where to start?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 July 05 06:49 BST (UK) »

Hi TN

First of all I have to say - while there were numerous Materna's listed -  there were only 2 Jan Materna's that I found  - yours and another who went to the US about 1891 - 

I'll give you what I have which isn't very much..... but I'm wondering if by any chance - there is some connection ?

England and Wales Civil Registration Death Index: 1984-1992

Name Jan Henryk Materna
Death Registration  Jun/89
Age 71
Birth Date 27 Jan 1918
District  Sheffield
County South Yorkshire
Volume 3
Page 1858

New York City Immigrants (Austria, Galicia, Poland), 1891

Name Jan Materna
Ship Rhynland
Arrival date September 17, 1891
Ship number 1439
Line number 233
Roll number 576

New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891

Name  Jan Materna
Arrival Date 17 Sep 1891
Birth Year 1857
Age 34
Gender Male
Port of Departure Antwerp, Belgium
Place of Origin Galicia
Ship  Rhynland
Port of Entry  New York
Place of birth Galicia
Line 11
Microfilm Roll  576
List Number 1439

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