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andrewvevers
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I've been seeking parents of William Vevers married at St Peters, Leeds in 1831 for about 5 years now.
I think I've looked at all the usual sources. I know from the 51 census he was born in Leeds and it was around 1809-10, but there are no baptisms in any of the Leeds churches which fit, and I can see there are a number of children born to at least 5 Vevers families who weren't baptised.
I'm after any other sources of information which might lead me to his parents. I've tried voter's lists and trade directories, and looked at sources in YAS, WR Archive and Local Studies Library. Does anybody have any ideas about other sources, for instance school records, apprenticeships, anything which might give his father's name?
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KathyM
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I know this would be a long shot - but....
do you know when he died & where he was buried ?
It may be worth checking the cemetery records...his parents may have been buried in the same/close by grave......
Another idea.....do you know of any siblings ?? If there is one who married after 1837 - their marriage certificate would give the father's name & occupation.
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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audrey
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I've been seeking parents of William Vevers married at St Peters, Leeds in 1831 for about 5 years now.
I think I've looked at all the usual sources. I know from the 51 census he was born in Leeds and it was around 1809-10, but there are no baptisms in any of the Leeds churches which fit, and I can see there are a number of children born to at least 5 Vevers families who weren't baptised.
I'm after any other sources of information which might lead me to his parents. I've tried voter's lists and trade directories, and looked at sources in YAS, WR Archive and Local Studies Library. Does anybody have any ideas about other sources, for instance school records, apprenticeships, anything which might give his father's name?
not in leeds but you might want to check these diff.spelling
VEEVERS, William Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 28 Jul 1799 Recorded in: Downham, Lancashire, England
Father: Robert VEEVERS
Mother: Mary
VEEVERS, William Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 9 Feb 1817 Recorded in: Downham, Lancashire, England
Father: Ambrose VEEVERS
Mother: Mary
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http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=ar17DOUGLAS /SMITH/GLENDINING /LITTLE/.JOHNSON /SEWELL/HENRY/WHITE..Dumfries/Cumberland/Northumberland RAFFERTY/CHAMBERS/LINDSEY/LINDSAY RENDER/FRANCES/ Mcbeth/Cooke.Northumberland SPENCER/JONES/FOULKES Flint.North Wales MCKNIGHT/SHAW/LILLEY/Northern Ireland KNEEN.I.O.M. MARSHALL.Cumberland
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Nessie
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These are burials in Leeds.
21st Oct 1829 Amelia Vevers age 19 at Hunslet St Marys.
18th April 1847 John Vevers age 81 at Hunslet St Marys.
10th May 1833 Elizabeth Vevers age 62 at Woodhouse St Marks.
19th Jan 1835 Robert Vevers age 21 at Woodhouse St Marks.
There may be a lead to the families here for you.
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Nessie
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Have you tried Genesreunited? Someone on there has a William Vevers born Leeds 1809 in their family tree. There are a couple of other Vevers as well in other family trees born in Leeds.
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andrewvevers
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Many thanks for the various suggestions.
Unfortunately William moved to Hull in 1838 then on to York in 1845. He died there in 1861. There's no sign of parents in the 41 and 51 censuses.
I don't know of any siblings either, though there was a Joseph Vevers who got a vote at Gower St, Leeds in 1838 and William also lived in Gower St. I've tracked down two Joseph Vevers but neither are a close fit, but there are no other Josephs who subsequently appear in the deaths up to 1905.
My best guess is that his parents came from Rawcliffe nr Goole as William moves close to some of them who'd moved to Hull. There was a Joseph in that family though he'd have been only 17 or 18 when William was born. I've checked the Leeds parish church deaths up to 1838 and some other cemeteries but not found him. I can account for the ones at Hunslet and Woodhouse. One fly in the ointment is that none of William's 11 children are called Joseph.
The Veevers family of Lancashire I believe are an offshoot of the Leeds family, but so far haven't been able to unravel them.
As for genes united I think it's probably my entry in there.
It's very frustrating but I really appreciate the suggestions, and if you find anything else please let me know.
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KathyM
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It sounds as if you have done a lot of searching ! I am sure William will turn up one day.....
If I come across anything I will let you know....
There are quite a few Vevers/Veavers recorded at Hunslet....
including another Amelia
baptised there 25 March 1767 - dau of Joseph
Also at Beeston - only one
Mary - dau of Joseph & Elizabeth VEVERS baptised 10 March 1805
born 20 Jan 1805
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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KathyM
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Here's something interesting.....
Morley Rehoboth Congregational Church (St Mary in the Wood)
Baptism index 1765-1838 has two entries viz:
Vevers?/Olivers Grace dau of James & Elizabeth of Churwell
baptised 17 Aug 1801 born 10 July 1801
Vivers/Olivers Hannah dau of James & Elizabeth (clothier) of Churwell baptised 4 Sept 1803 born 5 Aug 1803
As this is/was a non-conformist Church - it is possible that William's family were also Non-conformist. Churwell & Morley are just to the South of Leeds. If William moved to Hull he was likely to say he was from Leeds rather than a small place no-one had heard of !
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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andrewvevers
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Many thanks Kathy.
I've not given all the details since I know that a non Vevers probably won't want to take the trouble to read them. I have however published a web site which summarises a lot of what I've learned at www.vevers.me.uk
I'd originally concluded that because of the Joseph in the 1838 voter's list, that William was the son of James Vevers a cloth merchant from Churwell. James had a son Joseph baptised 1805 at the Daffil Chapel in Churwell along with some other children. They had a William in this family but he was born in 1799. The 41 and 51 censuses and his death certificate indicate my man was born 1809-10. It's possible he lied about his age but his life doesn't seem to connect with James and family except for one thing. In 1855, William lived in York and went to St Mary Bishophill Junior church. Joseph who was now 49 years old got married at this church to Mary Ann Noddings of York.
James was the brother of Joseph from Beeston, but this Joseph died in 1815 and his will makes no mention of a William, though several other children are included.
James' family were all cloth merchants. William was a book seller, though this isn't a conclusive test. He does seem to have been quite poor compared to James' family.
I'm more inclined to put him as a son of John Vevers, a joiner or another James Vevers a tailor. This James was particularly forgetful about baptising some of his children. However I still need to account for William going to live in Hull where he was in the next street to Robert Vevers a plumber and glazier and his daughters who were from Rawcliffe. There was also one of Robert's grand daughters nearby and they had a son James Winter Rawlins. William named a son James Winter Vevers, which I cannot dismiss as a coincidence.
I've probably lost you at this point but maybe it will ring a bell with somebody.
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