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Topic: Helen Fraser (nee Baird) born 1854 @ Kildrummy (Read 1008 times)
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kenjo
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Hi,
When Helen Married, did she say, whether, mum and dad were deceased, or not,?
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kenjo
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Hi There, 
Can you do me a favour?
Just check the info you have posted, from the beginning.
Is it all correct.
If it is.
I feel that for starters,
if Helen says, dad is the reputed father, then that usually means, she is illegitimate.
I did find the marriage, in 1852, but cannot find the birth of a Helen, to an Ann Hunter.
so that is why I was wondering if there is an error.
I'll wait, for your answer.
kenjo
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Have you got both families, in the 1881c and the 1871c?
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kenjo
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1. I wonder if ann died, after birth, of helen, and george went on with his life.
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2. So often in scotland, illegitimate babes, get passed onto, family, to look after, so the mum can continue working.
It is all, strange, when you see there is a Marriage, though.
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3. Maybe, the parents went to another country, but, still this seems, strange to leave the baby behind.
i feel that she, really may have died.
but, Helen did not say deceased, on the marriage. This can happen though.
Have you had the parish records out, for Killdrummy, sometimes they list deaths. If your lucky.!
regards
kenjo 
I'm sorry I can't help, I too have a gran, in aberdeen that disappeared.
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dkmcad
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Ysabeau, have you tried finding a death certificate for George Baird? Might give some indications as to Ann's whereabouts, i.e. if she had died and he had married again. Similarly, George might have died and Ann married again. Her previous names might not have been known to any informant to put on her death certificate.
Very difficult when you can't find them on any census. How about the 1861?
It was very common for an illegitimate child to be left with family, whilst the mother went off to work. I had difficulty in finding my great grandmother, who eventually turned up in London, having left my grandmother "at home" with the family!!
Sorry, can't be of more help.
Regards, Dorothy
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kenjo
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Hi Again, both you 2,
I did look at the couple going to australia, but none that I could find. North america, is a bit hard as they don't have to put mums.
also, there are about 4 georges dying in aberdeen, bought one of them but probably not him.
looked for ann, dying without marrying. and with marrying, there are possibles, too expensive, to search further.
you could go for all the names of children, to see if a mum "ann hunter" had any more children. on igi.
but, there really are only a couple of georges around. and most had already married, bu the time he and ann got together.
Did the grandparents, live on the farm, at the time of helens birth?
I am not of much help am I?
kenjo. 
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dkmcad
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Hi Y and K,
Did a quick check of OPR births on SP last night for George Baird, Old Machar. Between 1800 and 1850 nothing comes up. He could possibly have been born before 1800 or not registered. Not a lot of joy either on a second marriage for Ann 1855 - 1865, Kildrummy. Best bet now is the early census'. If Helen was illegitimate, there might also be a mention in the Kirk Session Records, but they are held in NAS.
On another note, where are your Andersons and Maitlands from, Ysabeau? Mine are from Rayne and Auchterless.
Kenjo, what's your missing granny's name, just in case anyone should recognise her?
Y, Just keep telling the family that salads are good for them! I would put them on "beans on toast" and head for NRH!!!!!!
Dorothy
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