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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #30 on: Friday 04 January 08 02:26 GMT (UK) »

Hi,
Have read this thread with interest ... but did not find an answer to my particular problem.
How do I get rid of the smell of musk and dampness that surrounds a bunch of old photos that I have rescued ? I know that sunshine will help with things fabric ... but I don't want to risk any more damage to these photos. They have started to curl as well ... any ideas ?
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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #31 on: Friday 04 January 08 02:40 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sharron  Smiley

Sunshine will help with paper, too, but as you say, not really with photographs (unless you want them fried  Shocked  )

Separating them out and laying them on a clean sheet or some clean butcher's paper etc. and putting them on a table or in a room with good air circulation is one possible solution.  I don't mean a stiff breeze should be coming through the window, but somewhere with gentle air movement.  You could put a fan on low and oscillate it around the room.  This will help to dry out whatever dampness there is in the photos.

I've also had success placing photos, books, papers etc. into a sealed plastic container along with a sachet of bicarb soda.  Pour some bicarb into a gauze pocket (I make mine out of wide gauze bandages, stitch up the sides and tie with string) - you want a good handful - and place it at one end of the container.  Put some photos up the other end - you will need to interleave them with some clean paper, and have them quite 'loose' if you know what I mean, to allow air to get in around them.  Leave them sealed up in the container for a week or so, then replace the bicarb and leave for another week.  Hopefully alot of the smell should have gone.

I hope this helps - let me know how you get on!

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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #32 on: Friday 04 January 08 02:42 GMT (UK) »

Forgot to answer your question about the curling  Embarrassed

Once you have dealt with the mustiness, place the photos into an album (there should be details about albums somewhere back in this thread).  Once they have come to equilibrium with the environment in your home or wherever you store them, the curling should decrease.

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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #33 on: Friday 04 January 08 12:47 GMT (UK) »

Hi all,
someone back there asked about what to do with the pics that have been restored by RootsChatters. What I do with pics I have scanned or downloaded is to print on plain copy paper and laminate for any I will be using on a regular basis, or to send to relies etc. For archival pics I print onto archival art paper and fix with art fixative. (pressure pack spray) I've tried several brands & quality of photo papers but haven't been happy with the result. I use Pelican brand inks in my printer, and yes your printer warrenty stands if you use generic ink cartridges in your printer.
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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 06 January 08 00:02 GMT (UK) »

Forgot to mention, Pelican inks have been around for centuries and are 'tried and trusted' by artists all over the world. Google 'Pelican+inks' and you will see what I'm on about.
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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 06 January 08 18:41 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Prue,
Sound advice and I will definately be putting a box of baking soda in with this particular batch of photos (don't have a clue why I didn't think of that) and when the smell is gone I'll store them properly. I consider them a real treasure.
I appreciate your help.
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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 11:52 GMT (UK) »

Major caveat about laminating photos - always keep at least one copy that is not laminated. If you are unlucky enough to lose or damage the original as well as any scanned file on your computer, it will be an absolute pig to rescan from the laminated copy - you'll get flare from the scanner light beam hitting the glossy surface.

If you have a monochrome photo, and you notice any small spots appearing on the surface, get a good quality copy made as soon as possible - these might not be mould. I had one where the print hadn't been fixed properly, and the image gradually broke up, luckily I had the neg. - and I have one with shiny areas which I believe are something to do with the use of silver halide in the developing process. This one doesn't seem to be corrupting, but I'm not taking any chances...
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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 12:29 GMT (UK) »

Comment on the caveat. Never, never, never laminate original anything!
That's what this thread is all about, conserving your precious photos and documents. Laminating is for copies only.
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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 18:14 GMT (UK) »

Comment on the caveat. Never, never, never laminate original anything!
That's what this thread is all about, conserving your precious photos and documents. Laminating is for copies only.
Cheers,
Leonie.

I have never perpetrated this sin myself, but I know someone who did, and the results were tragic - not only could the image not be rescanned successfully, but the chemicals or glues in the laminate started to act on the image, which began to "bleed" into it. The only cure was to get a pro. photographer as fast as poss., to stick it on a rostrum camera with an anti-reflective screen and retouch the result, but the copy was never  going to be as good the original, no matter how hard he tried.

The photo this happened to was an original b/w photo print, and I'm backing up Leonie's warning with another horror story - it's not just cold or hot laminating machines that can destroy your stuff. Whatever you do don't use the self-adhesive peel-offs either (Transpaseal and the like) as they will absorb the dyes from printed matter of all kinds as effectively as the other sort.

I'm probably stating the blindingly obvious here, but if you have anything so precious it would just about be the end of the world if you lost it, scan it at the highest possible res. you can manage - you can archive that one (offsite backup too) and resample a copy downwards for everyday use.
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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 19 February 08 02:25 GMT (UK) »

I have just discovered that my wedding photographs (1970s, presented in an album behind plastic sheets, not glued type) is deteriorating. The plastic is becoming brittle and going liquid and marking the b/w and colour prints. What should I do?Huh
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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 19 February 08 20:13 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jaag  Cheesy

So the plastic sheets are deteriorating?  Sounds like it's PVC and it's in its death throes!  You must get those photos out of the album and away from the plastic.  OR...get the plastic out of the album, if it's possible to do that, even just by cutting them out at the spine. 

If you have plastic residue on your photos, you will need to find a photograph conservator to remove it for you.  Where in the world do you live - depending on this I'll recommend a site where you can look up conservators in your area?

Once your photographs are safe, I would recommend having digital copies made, and stored on hard disk and CD in TIFF format. 

If you would like more info about any of this, please let me know.  There's a new topic on the Photo Restoration board with links to various threads on Rootschat about conservation matters...some of them might be useful:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,286501.0.html

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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 05:41 GMT (UK) »

Hello Prue,
Yes, the plastic is deteriorating. We have removed the photographs and wiped them down with paper towels, but I think there is still once-liquid residue left on them. I am still concerned about this being left on the photographs.
We have scanned them (colour, 600dpi, TIF  -  same as TIFF?), just on hard drive at the moment.
We live in Townsville, North Queensland, AUS.
Thanks.
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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 07:52 GMT (UK) »

Hi Geoff,

Be very careful about wiping the surfaces of photographs with anything...you could damage or remove the emulsion.

If you follow this link:
http://www.aiccm.org.au/public/content/ViewCategory.aspx?id=5
...you will be able to download a list of conservators who undertake freelance work.  There is a separate list for each state/territory.

Let me know if you need any more help or information  Smiley

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Re: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - CHECK HERE FOR FAQ**
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 01 June 08 01:44 BST (UK) »

Preservation and Conservation advice:

http://amol.org.au/recollections/

http://www.naa.gov.au/recordkeeping/rkpubs/advices/index.html

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/bytopic/genpub/
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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