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1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« on: Saturday 18 June 05 09:13 BST (UK) »

Looking for  SARAH ROSSITER  b. c1857.
According to the 1881 she gives her bith as Bath. Late 1881 she had a baby in Radstock. Think that she might have come from around that area.
Am having trouble locating her on 1871 or 1861 census. Do not know who her parents were.

Please......... would be very grateful of any help.


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DUNNILL - Yorkshire & Worlwide  
PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
KIRKLEY - North Yorkshire
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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 June 05 09:46 BST (UK) »

It may just be me, but..

I can't even find her in 1881 from what you've said!!  Roll Eyes

Is there anything else you know?  Is she in Somerset in 1881? or where?  I can't find a SR born Bath!!

Happy to help with a bit more info

kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 June 05 09:58 BST (UK) »

Have you traced Sarah on the later censuses to confirm a place of birth?
That would help in knowing which Sarah Rossiter might be the correct one on the earlier censuses.
Did she not marry?

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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 June 05 10:23 BST (UK) »

Ah - have found her in 1881, married to Peverel FROST - same name as the baby on your other thread.

As you say, she gives her place of birth as Bath, 1853.  They also have a daughter Minnie b 1880 and are in London.

Ref: RG11/0190 67 27

Detective work...  Grin
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 June 05 18:54 BST (UK) »

PLease ............. if anyone can help I will be SO grateful.

All I know about her is that she was b. in Bath, according to 1881 census. I have never found a marriage for her to Peveril Frost. She was his 3rd wife. The other three he actualy married.
Peveril had an "interesting" life. The first wife died after the first child was b. and he gave it to her parents to bring up. Then he m. again and wife no. 2 died after the first child, so he gave it to her parents to bring up. Then I find him in London on the 1881 with Sarah and dau. Minnie. Four years later he's m. again and started another family- this time for keeps! They were my Grt. Grandparents.
So what happened to Sarah, Minnie and baby Peveril? That is the mystery. Did she die and he left the children with her parents (whoever they were) or did the kids die as well.
I am getting really stuck.

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DUNNILL - Yorkshire & Worlwide  
PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 June 05 18:59 BST (UK) »

Oh, nearly forgot.
The baby Peveril that died in Pancras, London came after Minnie, I think. That is why she had the next baby, also Peveril, in Radstock. Perhaps she wanted to go home to Mum. That was my hunch.
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DUNNILL - Yorkshire & Worlwide  
PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
KIRKLEY - North Yorkshire
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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 June 05 19:20 BST (UK) »

Hi Inchworm,

I can find 2 Sarah Rossiter/Rosseter's born Somerset about the right age in 1871.

One was born in Closworth and living in Dorset (parents Charles and Sarah).
The other one was born and still living in Evercreech (parents Isaac and Jane).

I don't know these places but had a quick look at Genuki. It seems to me that Evercreech is closer to Bath than Closworth.

There may be other possibles that I didn't spot (remember the Rossiter indexed as Ropeter, for instance).

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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 June 05 19:32 BST (UK) »

Thanks for finding those. Do you know what the parents did for a living. Sarah was a dressmaker on th e1881 and I wondered if she came from a family of tailors. I did find 2 Rossiter families in Radstock who were tailors, but can't connect her to either of them.
Rossiter is a name that can be spelt so many different ways. It can be annoying.

Thanks again
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DUNNILL - Yorkshire & Worlwide  
PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 June 05 19:44 BST (UK) »

Isaac (had a quick look for him at it seems he died 1890. In 1881, he was living with a different wife. Therefore both Sarah's parents would have been dead by 1891 Census if this is them) was an Innkeeper in 1871.
Charles was a carpenter in 1871.

I had a look at Isaac's family in 1861:

RG9/1659
Folio 51 p. 17
Evercreech, Somerset
The Kennel Cottage

Isaac Rossiter, head, 44, Ag Lab
Jane, wife, 35
Job, son, 11, scholar
Caroline, dau, 11, scholar
Joseph, son, 7, scholar
Sarah, dau, 4, scholar
Emily, dau, 2, scholar

Everybody born Evercreech

Is this Job the Job you later had in Radstock?

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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 18 June 05 19:56 BST (UK) »

Yes, I had Job & Jane in Radstock and Edward & Ruth in Radstock. Can't fit Sarah into either of these.
If Sarah's parents were dead, then who had Minnie and Peveril. They all just seem to vanish. Peveril seemed to abandon each family as the wife died and started again.
It all seems a bit dodgy as he was only 35 years old when he married the 4th. wife!
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PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
KIRKLEY - North Yorkshire
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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 18 June 05 20:19 BST (UK) »

Just wondering if Job, Edward, Isaac and there was a Sidney (in Radstock as a lodger with no family) were all brothers. Perhaps someone could find them on the 1851 or 1841 if its not too much trouble.
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PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #11 on: Friday 08 July 05 13:00 BST (UK) »

Hi,

If you are hunting for the parents of Sarah Rossiter I may be able to offer up some possibilities:-

I have a marriage in Evercreech in 1858 between Isaac Rossiter & Janes Coles on  July 29th 1858.

I have a Sarah born about 1856 to Charles Rossiter and Sarah Harris in Halstock, Devon.

Another vague possibility is that she could be the daughter of Isaac Rossiter and Caroline Shepherd. Unfortunately, I only have their children upto 1851 but Sarah was a popular name amongst the Rossiters.

If you have any other information about Sarah please post it as it might make her easier to identify.

Hope this helps.

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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #12 on: Friday 08 July 05 14:21 BST (UK) »

Hi there,
How nice of you to reply.
The only family so far that I can fit Sarah into is Isaac & Jane. But no proof. Rossiter seems to be quite a common name in the west country. Did not have the marriage of Isaac, so thank you.
The only details that I have for her are from the 1881 census. She is age 24 born Bath, Somerset. She was living in London at the time. I then have a birth cert. for their son Peveril Frost b. in Radstock in Dec 1881. I thought then that they must have come back to live near her family. Her husband also Peveril Frost had remarried by 1885 in Derby, his native county. He is a widower on that marriage cert. so I presumed Sarah died. Found no record of it. Also I do not know what happened to Minnie and Peveril, their children.
There is also a Minnie Frost m. 1901 to an Edwin Rossiter at Frome but I don't know if she could be mine. I cannot afford cert. for all the possibilities, so all help very much appreciated.

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PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
KIRKLEY - North Yorkshire
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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #13 on: Friday 08 July 05 16:56 BST (UK) »

Hi Inchworm,

Thanks for your posting and the information.

Yes, Rossiter is a very popular name in the West Country and there are a number of Rossiter web-sites to prove it.

My Mum was a Rossiter and I have tracked her ancestry back to Somerset. I have a lot of information about the Rossiters but this line is new to me, so I will be investigating it with interest.

There are a number of Edwins in Frome but it is only a matter of time before we find the right one.

Best wishes

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Re: 1871 Census - Radstock (Sarah Rossiter)
« Reply #14 on: Friday 08 July 05 19:10 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the help and the great interest. One of the most difficult things is that Sarah Rossiter and Peveril Frost were never atually married. She just called herself Frost. On baby Peverils birth cert. it says Sarah Frost nee Rossiter. She was Peverils third "wife". The previous two died, each leaving a daughter which Peveril gave to their respective Grandparents. Then he appears on the 1881 census with wife no. 3, but I have never found a marriage for them. By 1885 he is on wife no. 4.
But what happened to Sarah, dau. Minnie and baby Peveril?
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DUNNILL - Yorkshire & Worlwide  
PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
KIRKLEY - North Yorkshire
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