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Re: 1851/41 census for Alconbury Weston
« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 June 05 15:14 BST (UK) »

Hi Ruth

I too had seen the 1891 Cambridge wedding - they had four subsequent children in the 1890's which I was hoping may have married in Alconbury, hence my question, but no such luck. Where does it say though that they were both from Cambridge? I couldn't see it - the other thing about all those IGI entries is that they are member submissions, so you should have the salt pot at your side ready to take a large pinch (having said that they do look reasonably authentic, apart from one)

The marriages - Sam appears to have remarried pretty rapidly after the death of Elizabeth in 1825, and I assume it was his second wife who died aged 76 in 1839.

I suspect that Ann and William, plus Joseph who died in 1829, could have been siblings of your Mary. It is probably significant that Elizabeth in 1825 was the only Palmer buried in AW in the period 1760-1825, so it doesn't seem as though Samuel was from the village, even though he may have married outside the county. I wouldn't rule out that Cambridge marriage!!! (think about the one you found for me on Saturday - Caxton, Cambs and Somersham Hunts married in Huntingdon)

Check out the Cambs FHS website http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html-
burial and baptism indexes - one of Samuel & Elizabeth's daughters was buried in 1802, but this is the only mention of the family - no more baptisms, but neither parent was buried (unless of course one or other of them died just prior to 1801 when the index starts). It will be interesting to see what the AW parish register says about the various children.

I've just browsed (you're not going to hear the end of that!) Alconbury, as opposed to AW,  1841 as I found William and Ann there in 1861, and found them, or what seems to be them, enumerated as Parmer.  I'll continue browsing once I've finished the school run and bought a baguette, and post the result later.

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David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
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Re: 1851/41 census for Alconbury Weston
« Reply #16 on: Monday 20 June 05 15:55 BST (UK) »

Hi David,

I searched for the 1791 wedding of Elizabeth Perry and Samuel Palmer and you get the basic IGI record.  If you click on Family on the right of that, that brings up a page where it says that Samuel was born about 1766 in Maddingley, Cambridge and Elizabeth was born about 1770 of All Saints, Cambridge.  It only gives a film number for that record and not a batch number. 
With regards to the Samuel Palmer, widower who married in 1825 at Alconbury Weston.  I figured that it was the same Samuel Palmer who had married a Mary Brown in 1820 at Kimbolton, Ruth
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Re: 1851/41 census for Alconbury Weston
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 June 05 20:36 BST (UK) »

Hi Ruth

The Cambridge marriage on the IGI is a member submission, the quality of which range from extremely well researched to stick in any name you think of, deduct 25 years if its male and 21 if its female and put that down as the birth year (which is what has happened here). The only way to check out the accurancy of these member submissions is to consult the parish register. But it must still remain a possibility which in your position I would check out.

I think your assumption about Samuel from Kimbolton is a dangerous one! Unless you know that Mary had died, and even then it's a bit of  a hike from Kimbolton to Alconbury. I prefer the local man, who had just been widowed. Again, reference to the parish register is essential. If the marriage was prior to Aug 1825 when Elizabeth died then my theory is blown apart!

Back to William, who married Ann Wheatley in 1832 in AW. In 1861 there is
RG9/973 Folio 50
William Palmer head marr 54 horsekeeper b Alconbury
Ann Palmer wife 50 b Godmanchester
George son 15; John son 12; Lucy dau 10; Eliza ? dau 7. All born Alconbury

in 1841 what may be be the same family
Alconbury HO107/450-01 folio 15B
Wilm Parmer 30 ag lab
Ann Parmer 30
Elizabeth 6; Mary Ann 4; Wilm 2; Emma 1
All born in Hunts

But the key pre 1837 is the parish register! On line/CDrom/transcribed information can provide pointers but ideally all should be checked. Here endeth tonights lesson! Back to the Economist!

Regards

David

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: 1851/41 census for Alconbury Weston
« Reply #18 on: Monday 20 June 05 20:52 BST (UK) »

Hi David,

Thanks very much for all you have done for me  Grin  I'll get hubby to print me out a map of Huntingdonshire and then maybe I'll have an idea of how big this area is.  It just goes to show that you should never assume anything without getting it checked out.  thanks, Ruth
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Re: 1851/41 census for Alconbury Weston
« Reply #19 on: Monday 20 June 05 22:19 BST (UK) »

No Savage families at Alconbury or Alconbury Weston in the 1851 census

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Re: 1851/41 census for Alconbury Weston
« Reply #20 on: Monday 20 June 05 22:46 BST (UK) »

Ok, thanks for looking Mike Smiley
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Re: 1851/41 census for Alconbury Weston
« Reply #21 on: Monday 19 December 05 12:40 GMT (UK) »

this is the only jane savage of correct showing up in huntingdonshire in 1841-
living at piddley hill,somersham
robert savage 30yrs lab
mary 30yrs
elizabeth 5yrs
jane 3yrs
ann 2yrs
robert 14 months
SOURCE INFO-H0107-0449
FOLIO-1/13
PAGE-23
regards
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Re: 1851/41 census for Alconbury Weston
« Reply #22 on: Monday 19 December 05 12:43 GMT (UK) »

Hi Alli,

Thanks for your help, Ruth Cheesy
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