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Blunt family - 1841 - 1851 census Please
« on: Sunday 19 June 05 22:45 BST (UK) »

I am wondering if I can get help with my recent finds. I used info from census from 1861 & Up, BMD, FamResCtr. & the aid of friends thus far.
I found this death: March 1842 BLUNT Robert- Shrewsbury. Need to know if this is my ancestor? Perhaps I may get lucky & find someone with the 1841 & 1851 census to see where Robert Blunt, retired chemist was living.
...also many blank deaths along the way. Have most marriages...except the ones in blue...& no documents, yet. Missing many children, also...Sorry if there is too much information....but have gotten heck for putting too little(lol)

Robert BLUNT- G.G.GF.   born c. 1777     St George,Southwark, , Buckingham, England  D.(1842?)
Married : 17 JUN 1802 Chesham, Buckingham, England
Anne (PORTER_ - G.G.GM.   born c. 1781  Chesham, Buckingham, England D. (1847?)
       Henry Blunt Sr.   born 14 NOV 1806  W L F Chapel -Independeso, Southwark, Surrey D. 1853
      Thomas BLUNT Sr.-G.GF.    born 16 NOV 1803  St, Southwark, London, England D.  1874  Shr.Shr.
       Married : 1802 st george, Southwark
       Sarah (_____) G.G.GM      B. c.1801  Kent Road, Surrey,   D. 1864 Shrewsbury
                Blunt Mary    c. 1835 Shrewsbury   d. 1851
                Blunt Elizabeth    B.1837   Shrewsbury      D.-----
                Blunt Sarah Maria   B . 1840 Shrewsbury    D. 1901
                Blunt Charles Gaire   B. 1846 Shrewsbury   D. 1864
                Blunt- Thomas Porter – G.GF.     B. c.1842  Shrewsbury   D. 1929
                  Married : 1866  Cirencester   
                Emily Rachael (Robinson)- G.GM. b. 1842 Hampton Wick, Mx. d. 1910 Sh..Sh.
                           Thomas Gaire R. Blunt  b.1867  d. 1950
                            Emily Augusta Blunt  b.1868  d.___
                            Mildred Frances (Felton)  b. 1869  d. 1906
                            Mary Ella Blunt (spin.) b.  1871  d.___
                            Gertrude Mabel E. (Rodick)  b. 1872  d.___
                            Walter Arthur Blunt  b. 1874  d. 1911
                            Charles Ernest J. Blunt  b. 1876  d.___
                            Ethel Marion Blunt  - GM  b. 1878  d.1973
                            Hubert Porter Blunt  b. 1882  d.___
 

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Re: Blunt family - 1841 - 1851 census Please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 September 05 19:00 BST (UK) »

Hello my genealogy crew!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
The above was an attempt at putting more information ...although I think it scared people off as I received no replies...It  does, however, have most of the information on it with blanks of missing info...I have the 1861 and 1871 with Thomas Senior and also Thomas Porter 1871, 1881 and 1891. ( paid for those just before I found rootschat! Didn't know about this site and didn't even know you could view some basic info on the census back then!!! )
   I tried to find Robert Blunt in Southwark, so was wondering if he might have moved to Shrewsbury ...as both his sons ended up there, working as chemists...Worth a try, anyway!

Thanks a million for looking things up for me...
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 00:39 BST (UK) »

Hi Jeany

I've been trawling through the census returns to get the Blunt family straight in my head but I haven't found Thomas and Elizabeth Blunt yet in the 1861 census.

If you have that info, could you post it.  It will help me looking at the later census and make it easier for someone else to look at the 1851 (I haven't got access to that one).

Will follow things up tomorrow.

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 00:56 BST (UK) »

Should I put any other censuses up, also...?

1861 census  ( Thomas Sr. & Jr.)

Name:    Thos Blunt   57  abt 1804
Where born:    Walworth, Surrey, England
Civil parish:    St Chad
Street address: Tower Place
Condition as to marriage: married
Employment status:   employer
Occupation:    chemist

Name:    Sarah Blunt  60  abt 1801
Relation:    Wife
Where born:    Kent Road, Surrey, England
Civil parish:    St Chad
parish:    St Chad
Town:    Shrewsbury Shropshire
Street address: tower Place

Name:    Chas. Gaire Blunt   14   1847
Where born:    Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Education:    scholar

Name:    Elizth Blunt  23  abt 1838
Where born:    Holy Cross, Shropshire, England

Name:    Sarah Maria Blunt  21  abt 1840
Where born:    Holy Cross, Shropshire, England

Name:    Thos. Porter Blunt  18  abt 1843
Where born:    Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Education:    under graduate in oxford

Name:    Hannah Daniel  24  1837
Servant
Where born:    Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Civil parish:    St Chad
Shrewsbury Shropshire
single     cook

Name:    Jane Roberts  32  abt 1829
Relation:    Servant
Where born:    Llangollen, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil parish:    St Chad
single    house servent
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 01:27 BST (UK) »

Dear Monica....
  I had thought that maybe with a bit of luck someone might find Robert & Ann either in Thomas Sr's home or in Henry's home...or even on their own in Shrewsbury. Please don't fret over this, I'll feel badly. I know it can be hard to wrap one's mind over someone else's genealogy...
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 01:34 BST (UK) »

I've got the 1871 also... for Thomas sr...so the only ones that I would need for him would be the 1851 or earlier if there is such a thing...?  Jeany
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 01:41 BST (UK) »

good gosh, I just realized that there were 3 servants, now with 2 gals at home what did they need all them for, I wonder?

1871 census

Name:    Thomas Blunt
Age:    68
Estimated birth year:    abt 1803
Relation:    Head
Household:
Gender:    Male
Where born:    Southwark, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish or Township:    St Chad
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Chad
County/Island:    Shropshire
Country:    England
Street address:    111 john place ( This should be TOWER Place)
Condition as to marriage:   widow
Education:
Employment status:
Occupation:   chemist

Name:    Elizabeth Blunt
Age:    33
Estimated birth year:    abt 1838
Relation:    Daughter
Where born:    Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Condition as to marriage:    unmarried


Name:    Sarah M Blunt
Age:    31
Estimated birth year:    abt 1840
Relation:    Daughter
Where born:    Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
 

Name:    Annie Allen
Age:    31
Estimated birth year:    abt 1840
Relation:    Servant
Where born:    St Chad, Shropshire, England


Name:    William North
Age:    17
Estimated birth year:    abt 1854
Relation:    Servant
Gender:    Male
Where born:    Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish or Township:    St Chad

Name:    Ann Owen
Age:    34
Estimated birth year:    abt 1837
Relation:    Servant
Where born:    St Chad, Shropshire, England
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 13:07 BST (UK) »

I've popped into this thread too!!!!

I see that in 1871 Thomas Blunt was living at 111 John Place.  Can't say that I've heard of that, but there is a St John's Hill which could possibly be nearby.

When I take your photos Jeany, I  have also got to take a couple of St John's Hill so will have a nose round for John Place.

Maybe Monica is familiar with the name?

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 14:53 BST (UK) »

Hi, Jan I am just looking at the actual images of the census, and the 1861 said St. John's row or Tower Place...The numbers were from 30 to 35 and Thomas sr. was in 35.....But I just looked at the actual image of the 1871 and it distinctly says Tower Place...I suppose the T does look like a "J" but that was transcribed wrong!
I never  looked to compare before as I always refer to my printed images.  I asked
for the typed file just in case I couldn't read some things...

Well on that census. the addresses go from 111, to 115...Hmmm... I think I will put up the other 2, also...
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 15:01 BST (UK) »

1871_Thomas Porter Blunt Family

Name:    Thomas T Blunt
Age:    28
Estimated birth year:    abt 1843
Relation:    Head
Household:
Gender:    Male
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish or Township:    St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Michael
Town:    Shrewsbury
County/Island:    Shropshire
Country:    England
Street address:    4 victoria st
Occupation:    chemist

Name:    Emily R Blunt
Age:    29
Estimated birth year:    abt 1842
Relation:    Wife
Household:
Gender:    Female
Where born:    Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England


Name:    Mildred F Blunt
Age:    1
Estimated birth year:    abt 1870
Relation:    Daughter
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

Name:    Thomas R Blunt
Age:    4
Estimated birth year:    abt 1867
Relation:    Son
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England


Name:    Emily A Blunt
Age:    3
Estimated birth year:    abt 1868
Relation:    Daughter
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 15:53 BST (UK) »

1881
Thomas P. BLUNT    31 ( wrong age! should be 38!) Shrewsbury, Shropshire, Chemist Employing 3 Men & 2 Boys Public Analyst Gas Examiner M.A.Of Oxford

Emily R. BLUNT 39 Hampton Wick, Middlesex,
 
Thomas G.R. BLUNT   14  Shrewsbury Shropshire

Emily A. BLUNT   12         "

Mildred F. BLUNT   11       "

Mary E. BLUNT   9         "

Gertrude M.E. BLUNT   8     "

Walter Arthur BLUNT    6   "

Charles E.J. BLUNT   5          "

Ethel M. BLUNT      3             "

Augusta ROBINSON  Mother In Law  62    Hampton Wick, Middlesex

Mary NEWNES   Servant 15   Leaton, Shrops     Nurse/Domestic Servant
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 15:54 BST (UK) »

Sorry it took so long, but didn't have this as a typed file...

1891_Thomas Porter Blunt Family
These are marked 59 to 67 with 59 called Old Tower & 60 being called 28 Tower Place, and 61 is 27 Tower Place 62 is 19 Tower Walls Chapel keeper, 63 is the chapel & 64 is the Chapel Cottage.

Name:    Thomas P.Blunt
Age:    48
Relation:    Head
Household:
Gender:    Male
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish or Township:    St Chad
Town:    Shrewsbury
County/Island:    Shropshire
Country:    England
Street address:    27 Tower Place
Employment status:
Occupation:    chemist

Name:    Emily R Blunt
Age:    49
Relation:    Wife
Household:
Gender:    Female
Where born:    Hampton Wick

Name:    Emily A Blunt
Age:    22
Relation:    Daughter
Household:
Gender:    Female
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

Name:    Mildred F Blunt
Age:   21
Relation:    Daughter
Household:
Gender:    Female
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

Name:    Walter A. Blunt
Age:   16
Relation:    SonHousehold:
Gender:    Male
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Employment status:
Occupation:    chemist Assistant

Name:    Charles (E) J. Blunt
Age:   15
Relation:    Son
Gender:    Male
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Employment status:
Occupation:    scholar

Name:    Ethel M. Blunt
Age:   13
Relation:    Daughter
Gender:    Female
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Employment status:
Occupation:    scholar

Name: Herbert P. Blunt (actual name is Hubert )
Age:   9
Relation:    Son
Gender:    Male
Where born:    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Employment status:
Occupation:    scholar

Name: Clara Corbett
Age:  19
Relation:    Servant
Gender:    Female (Single)
Where born:    (Birmington?)Worcester, England
Employment status:
Occupation: Domestic servant


Thomas Gaire Blunt
locationResidence: 1891 - Worcestershire, England

Gertrude E.M. Blunt
1891 – city  Warwickshire, England

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 18:59 BST (UK) »

Hi jeany and jan,

I've had a look at the other sheets in the 1861 census to look at the route the enumerator took to try to place to address.  This is the route:

Quarry Terrace, Quarry Place, St John’s Row, St John’s Row or Murivance, St John’s Row, St John’s Row or Tower Place, Crescent Place, Crescent Lane, Crescent Gardens, Crescent Cottage, The Crescent,  Belmont, Belmont House (a school), Belmont Bank, Town Walls (2 houses), Belmont, Milk Street.

Jan - does that help narrow it down for you?  I must admit, I'm not entirely enlightened by it - obviously some of the places have changed names over time.  It looks as if Murivance and part of Town Walls used to be called St John's Row???

Jeanie - there are often two numbers relating to each property on the census - the one in the left-hand column is the schedule number and just relates to the census, if there is a house number it will be in the address column - so in the 1891 census 60 is the schedule number and 28 the house number.   

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 19:04 BST (UK) »

Hi all

Possible deaths:

The one you found - ROBERT BLUNT    d. Mar 1842, Shrewsbury, 18 - 164  and
ANNE BLUNT  d. Jun 1847, Shrewsbury, 18 - 149

You really do need some kind person to look up the 1841 and 1851 - they should be in the one and not the other if these are their deaths.

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 27 September 05 19:40 BST (UK) »

Thanks, Monica, I don't know how I missed Ann in my searches.  That may well be the ones, and yes, I will need to see the early censuses...Patience is a virtue, and I have time. 
(Jan has put a bee in my bonnet....and Now my husband is getting the bug from me that England would be wonderful to visit. I had better be careful...or we'll pull our savings for our old age and pop off to the Island!!! It is so tempting!) jeany
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