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Mrs.G
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birth date needed 1891
« on: Wednesday 22 June 05 11:36 UTC (UK) »
Hi everyone,
I am having trouble locating the birthdate of John H.E. Williams
He was listed in the 1891 census age 1  (month or year does not say)
Parents were John and Louisa Jane Williams
living at 14 Brydges Street Liveerpool
I have also seen his listing in the1901 census
63 Gaerwen Street, West Derby with father John and Stepmother Sarah Williams
I have tried FreeBMD and FamSearch without any luck
Mrs.G
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casalguidi
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Re: birth date needed 1891
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 12:01 UTC (UK) »
Hi Mrs.G

I have just looked at the 1891 census entry RG12/2989 folio 79 page 38 and it looks to me as if it could be John H C WILLIAMS not necessarily John H E WILLIAMS ............ also the age is 12 but not clear whether 12 months/weeks/days ........... possibly months.  This has a stroke next to it which looks as if somebody has since entered a "1" for age 1 year perhaps???

There is a birth registered for a John Henry C WILLIAMS Dec quarter 1889 Liverpool registration district but that would make him older than 12 months 8b 38.  If you were contemplating applying for a birth certificate, you could apply direct to the local office and ask them to check the parents before issuing .............. they may then not charge if it is not the correct one.

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Mrs.G
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Re: birth date needed 1891
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 June 05 02:59 UTC (UK) »
Hello Casalguidi,
Do not think the John H.C. is a match I am looking for, reason is I have the death certificate of his mother Louisa Jane Williams.
Louisa died of abortion peritonitis after giving birth to John H.E.
Louisa died in the City Hospital Liverpool, certificate is dated 19th June 1891
John will have been born weeks earlier.
I am trying to find Louisa's Maiden name and was hoping John's Birth certificate would give me the answer.
Thank you for your help.       Bye, Mrs. G
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Mrs.G
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Re: birth date needed 1891
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 June 05 03:31 UTC (UK) »
Hi again,
Just had another thought about the John H.C. info you gave me, did the address match up with 14 Brydges Street West Derby Liverpool.
I can not find John H.C at freeBMD or FamSearch. Huh
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Re: birth date needed 1891
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 June 05 05:57 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Yes, the 1891 census entry that I looked at was that of the same family ........... it says John H (and could be C or E ......... )

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com .............. type in .............. John Henry C WILLIAMS.  Whether this is the correct entry I couldn't say but it is the nearest I could find.

If it is the correct family, I would think it quite possible that there was another child born between the date of the 1891 census and that of Louisa's death if she died of peritonitis perhaps  Huh

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