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keeti
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Hello  everyone,
lm a first timer on here, so a bit unsure how to get started,
l am looking for information of an Iain MacDonald who was in New Zealand with a brother during 1946 , not sure if they were here earlier, they had an Aunt Maude who lived in New Plymouth NZ, that they went to visit before they left in 1947, to go back to Scotland. Iain was believed to have died 1947 or 1948, any help would be appreciated.
Regards Keeti Rawiri ( nee Matene )
New Zealand.
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AMBLY
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Kia Ora Keeti
If you don't have anything more precise as pob that Scotland or any age for Iain and his brother - and seeing as how it's a common name - I would suggest Aunt Maude might be the best place to start....
What more can you tell us about her? (but don't mention names or personal details of anyone who is still living).
Were the brothers of an age to have served in WW1?
(Another thing to be wary of - is that " Iain" and "John" can be interchangeable in Scotland.
Cheers
AMBLY
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keeti
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Kia ora Ambly,
thank you for your response, and in regard to Iain, l contacted Scots Family website and through their research they found an Iain MacDonald that matched the information that l had from my mum.
Mum said he died after he returned to Scotland later in the year 1947.
scots family found only one of that name died in Feb 3rd 1948 so they thought it was very likely to be the person l was looking for.
They located his birth date as born on the 19th of August 1921 and also names of his parents and grandparents.
lm really searching to verify if the details l have been given are of the same person.
Mum said he was in his early twenties, not sure what age his brother was, plus the only info l had regarding their aunt Maude was just what l had given, that she lived in New Plymouth NZ.
Regards Keeti
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Gadget
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Hi keeti
Although there are 6 Ia*n M*cdonald deaths in Scotland 1947-48, the only Iain (who is also in his 20s) is this one:
Iain Macdonald, 1948, aged 26, Rosskeen, Ross & Cromarty
Does that sound correct?
Gadget
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Gadget
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More details:
Iain MacDonald, driver, single. Feb 3 1948 in the Joint County Hospital, Invergordon, Ross & Cromarty. Usual residence - East Mains, Urray, Muir of Ord, Ross * Cromarty. Aged 26.
Parents - Donald Macdonald, farmer and Margaret Ann m.s. Macdonald.
Cause of death - Acute Meningitis and suprarenal haemorrhage
His father was the informant.
His birth details, including his parents names and date of their marriage would be on Scotland's People - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It's pay to view but very reasonable. I obtained the death details from there.
Gadget
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ghostwhisperer
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Headstone in Urray West Churchyard
In ever loving memory of Iain died 3rd Feb 1948 aged 26 years, Donald died 24th March 1940 aged 4 years beloved sons of Donald and Margaret MacDonald, East Mains, Fairburn and the above Margaret Ann died 19th Jan 1981 aged 87 years and Donald died 2nd Feb 1982 aged 92 years. Corrie Dhu, Top Street, Conon Bridge.
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keeti
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Kia ora, ghostwhisperer
thank you, l,m actually astounded by the responses l have received in regard to the information that has been sent. Can you or anyone else give me an idea how to find out if he ( Iain ) is the Iain who has been to New Zealand with a brother, l,m still wanting to verify these facts.
thank you
Keeti
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keeti
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Kia ora, Gadget
thank you very much for the info you have sent, l am trying to verify if this is the same Iain, who travelled with a brother to New Zealand in the year 1946-47, leaving to come back to Scotland 1947, during February - March, after visiting an Aunt Maude who lived in New Plymouth, New Zealand.
l,m not quite sure as to checking the passenger lists, New Zealand side or from Scotland, any ideas, please? l had a look on one website and there was an Iain MacDonald that departed from Southhampton bound for Wellington NZ
but he would have been about 8 or 9 yrs of age, which gave me a fright as l assumed he came as an adult.
thanks once again,
Keeti
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Gadget
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Hi Keeti
What date do you have for him coming to NZ. Is anyone listed as coming with him?
I'll have a look to see if I can find any others.
Also, have you found any WW2 records for him? If he was in the UK, he would have been conscripted unless he was in a protected occupation. I see he is listed as a driver on his death cert - maybe he was in one of the transport divisions.
Gadget
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Gadget
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Hi
The only one that is anywhere near on the arrivals lists is an Ian S Macdonald, aged 31, arriving from Auckland on 19 October 1947. He arrived Southampton. This wouldn't fit with the info that we've found so far, Also and Ian arriving in 1950 from Wellington but that's later than you have him returning and dying 
I think I see your outward one - with mother and two other brothers - Norman and Robert. UK address given as Edinburgh
Gadget
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AMBLY
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Hi Keeti & Gadget
Not meaning to go on   , but the possibility he went by the name of John and appears as such on passenger lists has to be considered - even though you mum only knew him to be Iain.
I have an Scots John/Ian in my family (modern) - his mother is a Highlander and the only one who called him Ian - but this from Scotlands People:
Anglicising forenames
It was very common for registrars in Gaelic-speaking areas of the Highlands and Western Isles to anglicise common Gaelic forenames, for instance recording Morag as Mary, Iain as John and Hamish as James. Gaelic-speaking families themselves, who migrated to urban areas, may also have anglicised their names.
Also,could the possibilty exist that he was in NZ as a serviceman (Army or naval) from the end of the war, and that he shipped in and out with his unit - and therefore not exist on regular passenger lists?
Re: Aunty Maude, bit of a needle in a haystack really, and there are too many Maudes buried in the New Plymouth Cemeteries to pick any possibles. Unless scanning the list of names jogs a memory regarding a surname..... We might imagine, Maude was a blood related Aunt and married, so her surname is anyone's guess. I guess one way to go, seeing the Iain MacDONALD who died in R&C 1948 is the best fit to date, is to look into the siblings of both his parents to see if there is a Maude among them?
Cheers
AMBLY
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Gadget
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Hi Ambly
Have quite a few friends in Ross and Cromarty (I live there part of the time, still) who went by Ian/Iain but were really John but Keeti's info is so strong about the Ian/Iain name that I'm very doubtful on ships lists.
A brother's name would help.
Maybe you could have a look for Johns!
Gadget
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Gadget
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Keetie
Just a side query about Aunt Maude.
Have you been able to find anything about her in the NZ records?
i'm totally know nothing on NZ records but it might be worth you trying to find out about her. This might give valuable info - her husband/parents, etc. - that could lead to the MacDonald line.
You could put up a query on the NZ board:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,299.0.html
Gadget
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