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Aspley Guise Family Groups
« on: Sunday 26 June 05 18:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi All

Is anyone related to the Hutton's of Aspley and Sibley's of Husborne Crawley.

Please feel free to get in touch.

Cheers Sandy
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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 December 08 22:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Notice you posted this back in 2005 but thought I'd say hello - I've just joined here and am indirectly related to the HC Sibleys.

My great great grandfather's brother Frederick Grace married Ann Sibley in Jun 1879. There are one or two other Grace-Sibley overlaps too - but even more indirectly related to me!

I'm mostly interested in the Grace family who moved around HC, Aspley and Bedford between 1800-1900, although John Grace from whom they are descended came from Leighton Buzzard (born 1793)

I have most of my Sibley info from here:
http://sibley.family.users.btopenworld.com/home.html

And have otherwise been reliant on Ancestry.com resources to date. Have got to the point where I think I'm going to need to refer to parish records though...so looks like a trip to Beds might be in order (I'm in Hampshire)

Cheers
Laura

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PORTER, HARRISON, BAINES, LANDRUM, GARDNER, BUTTERWORTH, FOX - Preston/Bolton, Lancs
OWEN/OWENS, JAMES - Cardiganshire
GRACE, HERBERT, LAWSON, BILLINGHAM, STRINGER, SINFIELD - Bedfordshire
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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 09:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Laura

I know of Paul Sibley.

You can find all the Bedfordshire Baptisms etc on the I.G.I. (familysearch)
as it is well covered for the area.

My line is.

Thomas, William, William, Job, Alfred, my grandfather.

Just ask if you need more help and I am sure the nice
rootschatters here will assist.

Happy New Year 2009.

Sandy

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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 11:52 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Sandy - happy new year to you too!

Just found the right site for searching the IGI so making more progress now. I'd done the initial search on the main home page and not come up with much but now I've found the link to the search by parish page I'm really getting somewhere  Smiley

Think I'll plan a visit to the area anyway though - it's not somewhere I've been to before and would be quite nice to have a wander around the villages. The other side of my family are Welsh and we've had a couple of great weekends in Pembrokeshire/Cardiganshire visiting the villages there - in one case the cottage where generations of my family lived is still standing, albeit it in ruins - be quite nice to see if I can find the same thing for the Grace side of the family.

It seems everyone on here is very helpful so will certainly be back if I need more help once the IGI trail runs dry

By the way, have been struggling with 1871 census returns for this area - seems to be a big gap here whereas I can trace the Graces in every other year. Do you know if there was a problem with the 1871 census in Beds?

Thanks
Laura
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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 13:18 UTC (UK) »

There's no problem with 1871 Beds so far as I'm aware. Who can't you find?

I have the Husborne Crawley PR transcript (up to 1812) if you need anything checking

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 13:57 UTC (UK) »

David,

Thanks for the reply. Looking for:

Daniel Grace
Wife Elizabeth
Children Mary Ann, George, Joseph, Julia, Frederick, Sarah, William

I have them in Aspley Guise in 1851 census, then Husborne Crawley in 1861, 1881 and 1901, but cannot find any trace in 1871.

Also looking for Daniel's brothers:

Thomas and William Grace who again I have in Husborne Crawley in 1841, 51, 61 but then nothing in 1871

Thomas re-appears in 1891 in Newport Pagnell (nothing in 1881 as far as I can see). William would have been 57 in 1871 so perhaps died before then...

Just seemed odd that the family pretty much all lived in Husborne Crawley through the years and yet nothing at all for 1871...

Thanks
Laura

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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 13:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi Laura

There only 4 pages of the Husborne Crawley 1871 census as the others were ruined.

Hence hardly any families.

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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 14:01 UTC (UK) »

Ah, that would seem to explain it then Sandy

Pretty sure they were living there, and it doesn't really affect my knowledge not having the 1871 census transcript itself - was just for the sake of completeness that I wanted to fill in the gap!

Laura
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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 14:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi Laura again.

I have transcribed most of H.C Parish Records, I will see what I can help with.

I met a man who said he was a Grace when visiting H.C. about 10 years ago.

Here are some of the children that I have marriage certificates for.

2 Sept 1908 H.C.
George Grace 60 Wid Lodge Keeper H.C. father Daniel Gamekeeper to
Harriet Ann Matthews 4 Spin H.C. father George Deceased Groom

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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 14:22 UTC (UK) »

March 1st 1874 H.C.
Henry Tipple 22 B Lab H.C. father William (deceased) to
Julia Grace 21 Spin H.C. father Daniel Game keeper

Her baptism was July 29th 1860.

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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 14:30 UTC (UK) »

December 25th 1873
John Atterbury 24 B Lab A.G. father Samuel Butcher to
Charlotte Sibley 27 Spin H.C. Thomas Lab

August 2nd 1880
John Atterbury 29 Wid Serv. H.C. father Samuel Butcher to
Sarah Grace 23 Spin H.C. Daniel Lab

July 29 1860 Julia was also baptised.

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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 14:38 UTC (UK) »

Not sure if you have the details for Frederick

June 3rd 1879
Frederick Grace 23 B Lab H.C. father Daniel Lab to
Ann Sibley 22 Spin H.C. father John Lab

Frederick was baptised Jul 29 1860 and buried March 17th 1909
aged 52 years.

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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 15:00 UTC (UK) »

These seem to be the 1st mention of Grace baptisms in H.C.

All children of John and Zilpah.

All baptised 26 July 1835

Sarah, George, Daniel, James, Thomas.

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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 15:07 UTC (UK) »

Next are to Daniel & Elizabeth.

31st Mar 1847
Mary A

All 09 Nov 1851
Joseph
George
Mary A


All 29 July 1860
Julia 7yrs
Frederick 4yrs
Sarah 2yrs
William 9mos

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Re: Aspley Guise Family Groups
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 15:10 UTC (UK) »

More to Daniel & Elizabeth

Both 28 Aug 1864
Charles
Emma

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