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Wattsy
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Annuants?
« on: Sunday 26 June 05 23:16 UTC (UK) » |
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I wonder if anyone out where can help me answer a question?
I have several family member from different lines quoting themselves in 1841 and 1851 census as "annuitants". I understand that this means they were financially independent; receiving money but from what source?
Were pensions from occupations available at these dates or were life Policies available or ordinary people?
If work related pensions were available what type of occupations would be likely to have them?
Anybody any ideas please
Thanks in advance.
Wattsy
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trish251
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Most of the folks in my families (those not in the poor house) seemed to have annuities from private investments - mainly with banks and/or rent from property. If you can find a will for these folks, it usually details all their holdings.
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Nick Carver
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I think you will find that the source of the capital was (originally at least) land, possibly diluted over several generations by passing through younger children of younger children. However, there may be an element of nouveau riche involved by that period. Depends whereabouts your ancestors were.
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E Yorks - Carver, Steels, Cross, Maltby, Whiting, Moor, Laybourn
W Yorks - Wilkinson, Kershaw, Rawnsley, Shaw
Norfolk - Carver, Dowson
Cheshire - Berry, Cooper
Lincs - Berry
London/Ireland/Scotland/Lincs - Sullivan
Northumberland/Durham - Nicholson, Cuthbert, Turner, Robertson
Berks - May
Beds - Brownell
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Wattsy
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Thanks Trish and Nick for your replies.
My folks are in Cheshire - Rainow to be exact. My problem lies with one Martha Potts who in 1841 census describes herself as annuitant. She, as far as I can work out had one child, Isaac, in Rainow in 1813. From the Parish records there is no name for the father (although there is a column for that purpose). So I assumed the child was illegitimate until I managed to find his marriage certificate (1840) in which he names his father as James Potts, Cordwainer. I have been unsuccessful in finding any trace of a marriage between a James Potts and a Martha. I have also checked Trade Directories with no success
She is in 1841 living with her son and his wife in Mellor, Cheshire. On the census she puts her place of birth as Rainow. I was just puzzled how she could become financially independent with no husband.
Any bright ideas?
Thanks
Wattsy
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Little Nell
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The annuity may have been left to her by another relative. I have a large number of wills which leave a sum of money per year which is paid out of the profits/income from property. Sometimes the annuity is left to another relative (bachelor uncles are a good source) or to a SERVANT who has been in service for a number of years. Obviously this annuity paid out - sometimes if a will takes a long time to sort out, the beneficiary may go without for a while.
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Hackstaple
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Wattsy - it seems that if she did marry a Potts then there would never be a birth record for her as Potts 
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena. Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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trish251
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There is an extracted record on the IGI for James Pott born 1780 in Rainow. There are no marriage records at all for that parish on the IGI. Using that batch, there are only 12 ladies called Martha born 1775 - 1795, which is probably not very useful, but one of these may be your Martha.
Trish
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Wattsy
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Re: Annuants?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 23:01 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Carmela
I think your suggestion is the mostly likely as both son and his wife are cotton mill workers, however, somewhere, somehow by 1861 the son has become a cotton spinner employing some 8 people and later owns a cotton mill and the family fortunes seem to flourish. How and where he manages to find the money to invest in these projects is a mystery.
Anyway thanks for your suggestion.
Wattsy
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stonechat
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I have an unmarried female ancestor, in Censuses 1841-1861, she is housekeeper to a noted family - in fact if she had always worked there, she might have done 30+ years before the death of heremployer.
Subsequently she is an annuitant - I have not traced a will, but I suspect her employer left her a legacy
Bob
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