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AnneMc
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1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« on: Monday 27 June 05 02:19 UTC (UK) »

Could SKS look up on the 1851 census for the following family. I am have a very hard time find the birth/batism record for George Barker and his marriage. He states on all the census records I have from 1861 - 1881 that he was born in Eckington, Derby. But unable to find him.


George      Barker        49        Eckington
Hannah                        54           "
George                         22           "
Charles                        20            "     (grgrgrandfather)
Eliza                             18            "
Rosetta                         15           "


Thank you for any help.


Regards
Anne
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 June 05 07:45 UTC (UK) »

Hello Anne,

I take it the ages you state are from the 1861 Census?  Here's what there is on the 1851 name index -

BARKER
George - 39
Hannah - 43
Sarah - 14
George - 12
Charles - 10
Eliza - 8
Rosetta - 5

                     (HO107/ 2148/ 258/ 48)

"2148" covers Eckington.  I am unable to do a full look-up as the 1851 census is not yet available on CD ROM.  I will take a look on the 1841 census for Eckington though, and see if I can find them on that.

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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 June 05 08:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi again,

Here they are in 1841 -

1841

Eckington

George Barker     25     Coal Miner          born in county - yes
Hannah Barker    30                                      yes
Joseph Barker       9                                      yes
Elizabeth Barker    7                                      yes
George Barker      3                                       yes
Sarah Barker        5                                       yes
Charles Barker   11m                                      yes
James Marples    20     Coal Miner                    yes

                                      (HO107/ 195/ 7/ 21)

Hope this helps.
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 June 05 14:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi
        I have checked the 1851 census image and all i can add to what bagpuss as Posted, is the address is given as just "Egington"
there is an extra son Joseph, aged 19, he is a Coal miner as were George,39
and George, 12, Charles,10 and Eliza, 8 are Scholars and they are all born Egington.
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 June 05 16:50 UTC (UK) »

Hello Bagpuss and Alvaston Lad:
Thank you very much for the information. It gives me something more to work with, as I did not know about the son Joseph. So know I will have another go at trying to find the marriage.  What is making it hard to track down George Barker is that there is another George Barker born in Eckington about the same time and I thought that was my George then I realized he was married to someone else!!  Oh back to the drawing board as they say.

Thanks again.

Anne
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 12:53 UTC (UK) »


I can do the Eckington Census's and parish register if you tell me what you need.

  David.
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 17:05 UTC (UK) »

Hello David:
Thank you for the offer. Could you look in the parish records for the birth of a George Barker born ca. 1811 - 12 according to the 1851 and 1861 census. He states that he was born in Eckington.  I had looked at the parish records on a trip to SLC but I thought I had found him but it turned out to be someone else named George Barker as I found him married to somebody else.

Also have not been able to find a death for him as well. As he stayed in Eckington right up to the 1881 census, not on 1891 think he died between those years I he would be buried in Eckington.

Also having trouble finding a marriage for George Barker to a Hannah???
Their first child was named Joseph Barker born ca. 1832 according to 1841 census so think they must have married around 1831.

Thank you for taking the time to look for me.  Maybe a fresh pair of eyes can find the baptism record for George!!

Thanks again

Anne
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 19:12 UTC (UK) »



  Ok Anne, leave it with me, I live near Derbyshire Archives and also knew some of the Barker family from Eckington, I believe some are still around, I don't get to Eckington much these days, I might be a couple of weeks.

  David {Chesterfield}
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 23:09 UTC (UK) »

Hello David:
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it. I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards
Anne
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 06 July 05 14:54 UTC (UK) »

Dear Anne,
                 Eckington Parish registers {Marriages 1800-1837
Wm Barker M Sarah Rotherham 12/9/1833
Wm Barker M Sarah Elliot 21/4/1836
Thos Barker M Mary Gratton 27/4/1835
Henry Barker M Charlotte Hibbert 4/5/1830
Wm Barker M Elizabeth Turner 9/6/1828
John Barker M Hannah Mettam 29/2/1824
Robert Barker M Sarah Crofts 21/10/1817
Thos Barker M Elizabeth Crookes 26/12/1812
Thos Barker M Ann Webster 29/11/1810
George Barker M Mary Story 19/9/1808
Joseph Barker M Ann Dobbs 18/3/1807
Thos Barker M Hannah Morton 30/6/1805
Moses Barker M Hannah Hattersly 27/12/1804
George Barker M Hannah Richards of Anston 5/9/1803
John Barker M Dinah Wildgoose 30/6/1800
Thos Barker M Mary Wragg 24/4/1800
Emmanuel Barker M Jane Hibberd 18/9/1839
Jonathon Barker M Eliza Harvey 6/1/1840
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                      BURIALS.
John Barker 9/7/1888 age 80
Elizabeth Barker 5/1/1888  age 60
Elizabeth barker 7/10/1877  age 77
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BAPTISMS.
George Barker = George & Elizabeth Barker 9/7/1812
Joseph Barker = George & Hannah Barker born 29/1/1831-- Bapt 28/9/1831
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I don't think I have answered your query  but A George Barker is registered in the free BMDs at Chesterfield registration district died 1884 Dec Quarter age 74 so the age fits, cert ref 7b 452.
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Your George must have married elsewhere, I noticed a few of the Barker wives came from Beighton which is in the Sheffield district and I don't have access to them.
You probably have most of the above, but I will look in the Census to see if there are any clues there.

  David.
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 July 05 15:07 UTC (UK) »


   You could try this site for census, £5.00 for three months.
    http://www.bmdindex.co.uk/

Also it is likely your Hardwicks are a local family mostly to the south of Chesterfield.

  David.
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #11 on: Friday 08 July 05 13:39 UTC (UK) »

Dear Anne,
                      1851 census
George Barker 39 miner  b.Eckington
Hannah Barker 43                     "
Joseph Barker 19                      "
Sarah Barker  14                      "
George Barker 12                     "
Charles Barker 10                    "
Eliza Barker  8                         "
Rosetta Barker 5                     "
I know it's nothing new but just to confirm what you have.

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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #12 on: Friday 08 July 05 15:04 UTC (UK) »

David:
Thanks for sending the census information. It does confirm what I have.  I am waiting for a birth certificate to arrive so that should give Hannah maiden name. Then I should be able to find a marriage.

Thanks again.

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Anne
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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #13 on: Friday 08 July 05 16:30 UTC (UK) »



Let me know if I can help.

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Re: 1851 census look up or Eckington/troway
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 29 September 05 01:47 UTC (UK) »

Hello David:
I have just received the birth certificate today for Rosetta Barker daughter of George and Hannah Barker. It states that Hannah's  maiden name is Marples.

I was wondering if the next time you are at the record office you could look up a marriage for George  Barker and Hannah Marples. I have just done a search of familysearch and I have found a Hannah Marples born to a Henry and Sarah Marples of Eckington.  Hannah was baptised 1 March 1808.This could be the right Hannah as from the census information Hannah's birth year is 1807 or 08.

I still think that they would have married in the Eckington area as all there children were born there. Plus both George and Hannah states on the census record that they were born in Eckington.

Any ideas where I could look next?

Thanks

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Anne
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